Item 'slightly' damaged in transit, wants me to pay half
Item 'slightly' damaged in transit, wants me to pay half
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robbocop33

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1,207 posts

137 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Sold a valve guitar amplifier on Ebay, he insisted on wanting it sent over to Spain and he organised a courier to pick it up from me, fully insured.
Now have posted amps before and take care in doing it properly, I've never had an amp get damaged.I also covered the amp in 'fragile' notices, 'this way up', handle sticking out etc
So I get an email saying it's not working, I want him to send me a tech report, which he does, a loose capacitor!! That was it and he wants me to pay half the repair fee??
His fully insured courier damaged it despite it being covered in fragile stickers, and the fact it was wrapped really well!
Should I just tell him to ps off and use the the insurance he paid for on the package like everyone else does? Thanks.

The Rookie

286 posts

227 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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How did he pay? PayPal can be a right royal pain for sellers.

robbocop33

Original Poster:

1,207 posts

137 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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He paid by PayPal. He bought the bloody thing for 200 less than it was worth, yet he wants me to pay half of a 40 quid repair bill, caused by his courier that he has insurance for?

bitchstewie

67,775 posts

240 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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How much of your life is £20 worth?

NGee

2,954 posts

194 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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How can a courier cause a loose capacitor!?

scsracing

83 posts

125 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Paypal will see it as the sellers responsibility to deal with delivery, so I'd recommend paying the cost of face having to deal with PayPal, along with their very buyer basis'd policies.

essayer

10,410 posts

224 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Pay the £20 before he stitches you up on eBay with a “significantly not as described” claim

Register1

2,279 posts

124 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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I don't even know why you bothered to post it to Spain.

You should have know some thing like this IS going to happen.

For some thing like that, I would have made collection only,

Show it working, take cash.

Now you can be in a whole world of Paypal / eBay / buyer pain.

R1

waynecyclist

14,704 posts

144 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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I would just pay the £20, not worth the hassle.

If paypal or ebay get involved you could lose a lot more.

robbocop33

Original Poster:

1,207 posts

137 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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NGee said:
How can a courier cause a loose capacitor!?
Good question! Answers on a postcard please....

robbocop33

Original Poster:

1,207 posts

137 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Register1 said:
I don't even know why you bothered to post it to Spain.

You should have know some thing like this IS going to happen.

For some thing like that, I would have made collection only,

Show it working, take cash.

Now you can be in a whole world of Paypal / eBay / buyer pain.

R1
I know, not something I usually do. Think that's why I photographed it before hand, to show it was well packaged with warnings/info on it.

Black_S3

2,817 posts

218 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Get him to confirm in writing it was damaged in transit with the courier HE arranged then contact paypal to see what their view is and follow their advice. If you're lucky they'll view the courier collection as the handover point - in which case just ignore him.

silentbrown

10,913 posts

146 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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NGee said:
How can a courier cause a loose capacitor!?
^This, mostly^.

Courier insurance won't pay just because the item didn't work when it arrived. You'd need to show that there was actual physical damage to the item/packaging specifically caused during transit. Photos of it before it was unpacked by the recipient would be a start, ideally taken with the delivering courier present.

A 'loose' capacitor (probably a dry joint or similar) sounds like the kind of thing that could have happened at any point. I'd suck it up and move on.

Mercky

642 posts

165 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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silentbrown said:
^This, mostly^.

Courier insurance won't pay just because the item didn't work when it arrived. You'd need to show that there was actual physical damage to the item/packaging specifically caused during transit. Photos of it before it was unpacked by the recipient would be a start, ideally taken with the delivering courier present.

A 'loose' capacitor (probably a dry joint or similar) sounds like the kind of thing that could have happened at any point. I'd suck it up and move on.


Yes, do this, it sounds like hes being quite reasonable. Its not his fault you sold it for 200 less than its worth
Edited by Mercky on Tuesday 6th March 19:29

drdel

489 posts

158 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Just playing devils advocate//.

How does the buyer (or we) know it was working before being sent ?

There is no objective evidence whether, you or the buyer are honourable or whether the carrier is a muppet.

Pay up, move on.

Davie_GLA

6,885 posts

229 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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£20 man. Hard to accept i know but just move on before it comes more expensive.

robbocop33

Original Poster:

1,207 posts

137 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Mercky said:
silentbrown said:
^This, mostly^.

Courier insurance won't pay just because the item didn't work when it arrived. You'd need to show that there was actual physical damage to the item/packaging specifically caused during transit. Photos of it before it was unpacked by the recipient would be a start, ideally taken with the delivering courier present.

A 'loose' capacitor (probably a dry joint or similar) sounds like the kind of thing that could have happened at any point. I'd suck it up and move on.


Yes, do this, it sounds like hes being quite reasonable. Its not his fault you sold it for 200 less than its worth
Edited by Mercky on Tuesday 6th March 19:29
I know it's not his fault it sold for 200 quid less than it's value, Jesus, my point with that was 'he' should suck up the 40 bill for damage 'his' courier, he's got 200 extra bucks to puss about with.
I personally would have just fixed it and got on with my life, especially for 40 quid? He said for courier insurance would pay only if outer packaging was damaged, so, reading into that, he's saying it 'wasn' t' damaged, which proves my point I made to him earlier I wrapped it extremely well!

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

200 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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All this over £20?

silentbrown

10,913 posts

146 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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robbocop33 said:
I know it's not his fault it sold for 200 quid less than it's value, Jesus, my point with that was 'he' should suck up the 40 bill for damage 'his' courier, he's got 200 extra bucks to puss about with.
I personally would have just fixed it and got on with my life, especially for 40 quid? He said for courier insurance would pay only if outer packaging was damaged, so, reading into that, he's saying it 'wasn' t' damaged, which proves my point I made to him earlier I wrapped it extremely well!
This is nothing to do with "damaged in transit". You wrapped it well, and buyer says there's no damage to the packaging. It's just "faulty goods".

You claim It worked before you shipped it, but it didn't work on arrival. Assuming you put something like "good working order" in the ad, buyer would be within his rights to get a full refund including shipping costs, and you'll also have to pay to get the amp shipped back!

MitchT

17,135 posts

239 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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£20 to avoid a PayPal seller-shafting nightmare? Bite his hand off!