First Speeding Fine
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theguvernor15

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1,068 posts

133 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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Morning All,

Last week whilst driving a works van, i was busted by a mobile camera van, doing 81mph in a 70mph.

Bang to rights, it was me etc.

It's my first ever speeding fine, or road traffic offence & currently i have a clean license.
Usually i'd just expect 3 points and a fine.

However it says on the letter that the speed limit for the vehicle was 60mph. (Transit van).

Will i get more than 3 points + a fine?

Thanks

Shiv_P

3,042 posts

135 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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I would expect so as you were effectively 20mph above the limit

KevinCamaroSS

13,838 posts

310 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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The only standard type of road where a transit-type van can legally drive at 70mph is a motorway. Dual carriageways etc. are 60mph. If on a DC then you are over 20mph over the limit for your vehicle.

theguvernor15

Original Poster:

1,068 posts

133 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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KevinCamaroSS said:
The only standard type of road where a transit-type van can legally drive at 70mph is a motorway. Dual carriageways etc. are 60mph. If on a DC then you are over 20mph over the limit for your vehicle.
Evidently, i know this now, ignorance isn't a defence, i must admit i didn't realise it was limited for transit type vans, i just thought it was for bigger Luton/box type vans, either way, i was more interested in potential repercussions?
If i Google it says i'm going to hell etc. i was after a real world likely outcome.

Not that it matters, but it's the first speeding/traffic offence i've had in 15 years of being on the road, so i'm not versed in real world punishments etc.

Pica-Pica

16,614 posts

114 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

Shows the various speed limits

theguvernor15

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133 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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Pica-Pica said:
https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

Shows the various speed limits
Thanks, it was a Renault Traffic, 3 seater. So 60mph was the limit.
I got busted doing 81mph.
I'm presuming i'm on for 6 points & a fine?

SteveScooby

842 posts

207 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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Recommended threshold for a summons in a 60 is 86, so you’re likely to be offered a FPN.

ScoobyChris

2,307 posts

232 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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theguvernor15 said:
Pica-Pica said:
https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

Shows the various speed limits
Thanks, it was a Renault Traffic, 3 seater. So 60mph was the limit.
I got busted doing 81mph.
I'm presuming i'm on for 6 points & a fine?
Reckon on FPN for 3 points and £100...

Chris

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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theguvernor15 said:
Last week whilst driving a works van, i was busted by a mobile camera van, doing 81mph in a 70mph.

However it says on the letter that the speed limit for the vehicle was 60mph. (Transit van).

Will i get more than 3 points + a fine?
Too fast for an awareness course, not fast enough to be over the normal threshold for court.

Available to be dealt with by fixed penalty - 3 points & £100.

theguvernor15

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Friday 23rd March 2018
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SS2. said:
Too fast for an awareness course, not fast enough to be over the normal threshold for court.

Available to be dealt with by fixed penalty - 3 points & £100.
Thanks guys, lesson learned!
& it's true what they say, once you've seen them it's too late...
They'll have got a hell of a lot of other people that day, that's for sure.

captainaverage

596 posts

117 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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theguvernor15 said:
Thanks guys, lesson learned!
& it's true what they say, once you've seen them it's too late...
They'll have got a hell of a lot of other people that day, that's for sure.
Where was this?

fatboy b

9,665 posts

246 months

Friday 23rd March 2018
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KevinCamaroSS said:
The only standard type of road where a transit-type van can legally drive at 70mph is a motorway. Dual carriageways etc. are 60mph. If on a DC then you are over 20mph over the limit for your vehicle.
This was highlighted on my recent SAC whistle

I was surprised by the amount of people in the room who didn’t know the speed limits for the type of vehicle they drive for work.

iDrive

443 posts

143 months

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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iDrive said:
Only if the matter was proceeded to court which, in this case. is not at all likely.

Wobbegong

15,078 posts

199 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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theguvernor15 said:
They'll have got a hell of a lot of other people that day, that's for sure.
That’s what they’re for, nice earner for little expense.

Pica-Pica

16,614 posts

114 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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Wobbegong said:
theguvernor15 said:
They'll have got a hell of a lot of other people that day, that's for sure.
That’s what they’re for, nice earner for little expense.
Driver’s money, driver’s choice.

Plug Life

978 posts

121 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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Congratulations for your first ever speeding fine!

4rephill

5,168 posts

208 months

Sunday 25th March 2018
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fatboy b said:
KevinCamaroSS said:
The only standard type of road where a transit-type van can legally drive at 70mph is a motorway. Dual carriageways etc. are 60mph. If on a DC then you are over 20mph over the limit for your vehicle.
This was highlighted on my recent SAC whistle

I was surprised by the amount of people in the room who didn’t know the speed limits for the type of vehicle they drive for work.
I call bullscensoredt!

It's a well known PistonHeads fact that nobody learns anything at all on SAC courses, and that they're a complete waste of time! wink


Funnily enough, a workmate who had to to an SAC course for speeding also said it was actually quite informative, especially when it came to different speed limits for vans.

He discovered that, at work we had two Ford Transit connect vans that looked pretty much identical, but due to their differing load capacities, one van was subject to "car" speed limits, whilst the other was subject to "van" speed limits. There was nothing to warn drivers of the lower limits for the one van, as the management weren't aware of the difference. Once informed, they put a sticker on the windscreen warning about the different limits due to the risk of a driver being caught out.

He asked me if I knew there were different limits based on load capacities, and was surprised to find out that I did. I pointed out that I only knew though because I'd read about it on PistonHeads.

ghe13rte

1,860 posts

146 months

Sunday 25th March 2018
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4rephill said:
I call bullscensoredt!

It's a well known PistonHeads fact that nobody learns anything at all on SAC courses, and that they're a complete waste of time! wink


Funnily enough, a workmate who had to to an SAC course for speeding also said it was actually quite informative, especially when it came to different speed limits for vans.

He discovered that, at work we had two Ford Transit connect vans that looked pretty much identical, but due to their differing load capacities, one van was subject to "car" speed limits, whilst the other was subject to "van" speed limits. There was nothing to warn drivers of the lower limits for the one van, as the management weren't aware of the difference. Once informed, they put a sticker on the windscreen warning about the different limits due to the risk of a driver being caught out.

He asked me if I knew there were different limits based on load capacities, and was surprised to find out that I did. I pointed out that I only knew though because I'd read about it on PistonHeads.
Amazing!
It’s not as if the Government have tried to hide it.
Well done to Pistonheads and all of its knowledgeable chums.

https://www.gov.uk/speed-limits

SS2.

14,712 posts

268 months

Sunday 25th March 2018
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4rephill said:
He discovered that, at work we had two Ford Transit connect vans that looked pretty much identical, but due to their differing load capacities, one van was subject to "car" speed limits, whilst the other was subject to "van" speed limits.
Not wishing to derail the thread but, unless the Connect was 'car derived' (or had been converted to satisfy the requirements for 'dual purpose'), then it would matter not a jot whether its maximum laden weight was above or below 2 tonnes - lower speed limits would apply regardless.

Edited by SS2. on Sunday 25th March 14:42