Motorway services parking
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anonymous-user

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84 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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Well the rules haven't changed in over 50 years only the 'technology' that has replaced the car park man/clamper.
Did you actually get out of your vehicle at any stage.
Just out of interest do you know what 'operator' it was?
And how long over 2 hrs ? 3 4 5 6 ??

syl

693 posts

105 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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If the signage is inadequate, yes, you have a defence.

BertBert

21,272 posts

241 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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You spent 5 hours in the services?

Red Devil

13,516 posts

238 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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syl said:
If the signage is inadequate, yes, you have a defence.
yes - https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/aug/26/park...

Zetec-S

6,906 posts

123 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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anonymous said:
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5 hours! That's one hell of a st hehe

S11Steve

6,389 posts

214 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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CP Plus Notice to Keeper documents do not comply with POFA 2012, so they can not hold the keeper liable.

They hardly ever take anything as far as court, so tell them the driver was having a break for safety reason, the signs were inadequate to form a contract and to stick it up their arse as they can't hold you liable as keeper.

http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/CP_Plus.html





Mandalore

5,457 posts

143 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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I'm surprised that anyone alive today, that isn't a visitor still falls foul of the 2hour rule in service centres?





S11Steve

6,389 posts

214 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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Mandalore said:
I'm surprised that anyone alive today, that isn't a visitor still falls foul of the 2hour rule in service centres?
The most common reason I find is when people stop to avoid traffic jams and motorway closures. We've noticed clusters of tickets arriving at work that all relate to the same date and approximate time.

A quick google of the local news for that day will usually reveal an overturned truck or multi-vehicle accident, hence people staying at services for a couple of hours til things start moving.

big alpha male

52 posts

105 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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You stopped, nobody made you and now you're trying to weasel out of what you owe

you're a nasty toad

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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S11Steve said:
Mandalore said:
I'm surprised that anyone alive today, that isn't a visitor still falls foul of the 2hour rule in service centres?
The most common reason I find is when people stop to avoid traffic jams and motorway closures. We've noticed clusters of tickets arriving at work that all relate to the same date and approximate time.

A quick google of the local news for that day will usually reveal an overturned truck or multi-vehicle accident, hence people staying at services for a couple of hours til things start moving.
And then they usually cancel charges for the whole day or whatever.
I'll hazard a guess with CP plus the operator is Road chef, who have a stonking huge sign on the entrance in, then pretty much every other lamppost and in the toilets.

rigga

8,806 posts

231 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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big alpha male said:
You stopped, nobody made you and now you're trying to weasel out of what you owe

you're a nasty toad
A touch uncalled for ......

Vipers

33,506 posts

258 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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I only use motorways once a year when I make the annual jaunt down to gods country from north of the border.

I stop in a number of service stations and can't recall even seeing any signs at all. Have they been there long, and do they only appear on some service stations.

S11Steve

6,389 posts

214 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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speedyguy said:
And then they usually cancel charges for the whole day or whatever.
I'll hazard a guess with CP plus the operator is Road chef, who have a stonking huge sign on the entrance in, then pretty much every other lamppost and in the toilets.
CP Plus operate at various motorway areas, and although I would (somewhat biased admittedly) argue that the signage isn't compliant, based on previous cases I have dealt with, there have been very few opportunities for anyone to seek a legal decision from a County Court on the matter.

With regards cancellation - barely any of the PPCs will cancel the tickets without a fight. They may just pass it to Debt Recovery Plus for them to chase, but cancellations prior to the engagement POPLA are quite rare.

Pica-Pica

16,615 posts

114 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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Vipers said:
I only use motorways once a year when I make the annual jaunt down to gods country from north of the border.

I stop in a number of service stations and can't recall even seeing any signs at all. Have they been there long, and do they only appear on some service stations.
They are plastered all over the place. The observant here (bearing mind we are all motorists and used to observing), cannot fail to see them.

Hint, when you see the big ‘P’ sign, read what it says underneath! Having said that, we all have to get caught once. I did, by Parking Eye. I made a generous ‘take it or leave it’ offer by way of a £12 cheque, and they took it. My lesson learnt.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

84 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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As stated above the main difference now is Anpr and Pofa rather than a man in a van/clamper.

You can't move on a service area usually without seeing or falling over a sign about parking, usually even in the toilets, and for those who say they never got out of the car they are on virtually every other lamp post and on the exit.

With regard to the op looking at another operator it looks like CP plus cover some other their sites.
I think the ones where it is less prevalent on a huge notice as you drive onto a site is welcomebreak

Stuff in there about different policies, they've only ever offered free short stay parking, that was written into agreements in the 1960's
https://motorwayservicesonline.co.uk/MSA_Policy

BlueMR2

9,466 posts

232 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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What would happen if you were to stop before the sign?

Would you still be subject to the sign conditions?

Cold

16,720 posts

120 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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BlueMR2 said:
What would happen if you were to stop before the sign?

Would you still be subject to the sign conditions?
You may well be subject to a large lorry reshaping your rear bumper.

BlueMR2

9,466 posts

232 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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Cold said:
BlueMR2 said:
What would happen if you were to stop before the sign?

Would you still be subject to the sign conditions?
You may well be subject to a large lorry reshaping your rear bumper.
I was more thinking of parking on the grass verge.

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

290 months

Saturday 24th March 2018
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big alpha male said:
You stopped, nobody made you and now you're trying to weasel out of what you owe

you're a nasty toad
Said the wee man.