Requesting a copy of Mother in Law's will.
Requesting a copy of Mother in Law's will.
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Jinba Ittai

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694 posts

121 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Some advice if anyone can assist, please.

My mother in law died last July. My wife is one of five siblings. One of her sisters and an unknown solicitor are executors. Seemingly nothing has been processed with regard to settling her estate since her death. There are various splits between the siblings due to events that occurred before my mother in law died. In short, some of the siblings suspect shenanigans are afoot. Despite repeated requests for a copy of the will to my sister in law, she has neither produced a copy of the will, nor given the details of the solicitor who is the other executor. When approached about other matters relating to the possessions of my mother in law, she has been (seemingly) deliberately nebulous. The various spats between siblings and the distance between them geographically, makes communication between them as a cohesive group impossible.

In short - my wife is extremely distressed now, and wishes to see a copy of the will, which I understand she has a right to see. Is there anywhere we can approach which will confirm where the will is, or is it a matter of 'going legal' to force sister in law to produce the will?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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I take it it's not available here yet? https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate

Hotel India

456 posts

227 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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Never knew about that service - thank you.

Jinba Ittai

Original Poster:

694 posts

121 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
I take it it's not available here yet? https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate
That is correct, so no probate applied for or granted yet......

konark

1,239 posts

149 months

Tuesday 3rd April 2018
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If you haven't seen the will how do you know who the executors are?

A will is only registered if probate is applied for, not all estates ( i.e. small ones) require probate, but any with a property will

Red Devil

13,516 posts

238 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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Jinba Ittai said:
In short - my wife is extremely distressed now, and wishes to see a copy of the will, which I understand she has a right to see. Is there anywhere we can approach which will confirm where the will is, or is it a matter of 'going legal' to force sister in law to produce the will?
I understand your wife's distress but unfortunately you're incorrect.
She has no legal right to see the will. Until probate is granted it is a private document.
After the grant it becomes public and anyone can get a copy.

As for 'going legal', Executors and Administrators have a duty to act mutually and in good faith.
This is the case even when they themselves are Beneficiaries or related to a Beneficiary.
Also they should not be deliberately obstructive and/or delay the estate administration.

If your wife has concerns that all is not above board she should consult a solicitor.
Some will give a free short consultation, so that's the first question.
A shot across the sister-in-law's bows from a legal professional might concentrate her mind.

That said, bear in mind that difficulties can arise in obtaining all the documents/info needed to apply for a grant.*
Especially if the deceased was not methodical about keeping records and/or ensuring people knew where stuff could be easily found.

 * Ask me how I know... rolleyes

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Jinba Ittai

Original Poster:

694 posts

121 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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Red Devil said:
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Thank you Red Devil, your words are very helpful.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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Red Devil said:
That said, bear in mind that difficulties can arise in obtaining all the documents/info needed to apply for a grant.*
Especially if the deceased was not methodical about keeping records and/or ensuring people knew where stuff could be easily found.

* Ask me how I know... rolleyes
Ah, the fun of things like bank safe deposit boxes.

"No, you can't have access until you have probate."
But how do we get probate without knowing what's in it?
"Don't care. You can't have access without probate."

<sigh>

Sheepshanks

41,091 posts

149 months

Wednesday 4th April 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Ah, the fun of things like bank safe deposit boxes.

"No, you can't have access until you have probate."
But how do we get probate without knowing what's in it?
"Don't care. You can't have access without probate."
Having recently gone through this process I get the impression you could write (or omit) anything on the Probate forms and it wouldn't matter. The stuff about relatives is particularly ridiculous.

ETA - there's a place near me that does them and they access will be allowed with a death cert for probate valuation purposes, but you can't remove anything.


Edited by Sheepshanks on Wednesday 4th April 10:15