Double standards by Scotland Yard?
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Gavia said:
Stephen Lawrence was murdered in 1993, Madeleine McCann was 2008, so there's another 15 years to go before parity is reached timewise.
Oh great, so that's potentially another 15 years of wasted money I have to help fund for parents that were so busy having a pissed-up dinner that they wouldn't pay for a proper child-minder - let the consultant pay the bill and give the rest of us some respite FFS!There is no double standard the legal system has gone out of its way to pursue this case. Scotland yard informed the family there was insufficient evidence to prosecute and advised them to wait while they continued to investigate, (this is conveniently forgotten today), the family pursued a private prosecution which failed. Tony Blair then changed the law and severely diluted the double jeopardy defense that had existed in the UK, I am sympathetic to Steven and his murder was a disgrace, I have no sympathy for his mother, and the way here action has eroded the rights of British citizens or helped in the prosecution of her sons murders.
There's a BBC documentary on about it on the 17 April.
I'm not sure attacking the Lawrences for the police failures in the investigation and the links between the local police and criminals is appropriate.
Police infiltrating the protest group over it also seems ethically questionable given their failures investigating the murder and their links to local criminals. It's current given the Spy Cops Inquiry and all the legal wrangling over the identities of the officers involved.
I suppose undercover Cops using taxpayers money to gather dirt against those unhappy about their failings and inadequacies isn't that much different from criticising the Lawrence family on the Internet?
If you read former DCI Clive Driscoll's book he states the Judge said 'Now go after the others' when Gary Dobson and David Norris were convicted.
A positive is the ending of Double Jeopardy where alleged murderers can be retried if new evidence comes forward. So some good has come out of it, but lets attack the victims?
I'm not sure attacking the Lawrences for the police failures in the investigation and the links between the local police and criminals is appropriate.
Police infiltrating the protest group over it also seems ethically questionable given their failures investigating the murder and their links to local criminals. It's current given the Spy Cops Inquiry and all the legal wrangling over the identities of the officers involved.
I suppose undercover Cops using taxpayers money to gather dirt against those unhappy about their failings and inadequacies isn't that much different from criticising the Lawrence family on the Internet?
If you read former DCI Clive Driscoll's book he states the Judge said 'Now go after the others' when Gary Dobson and David Norris were convicted.
A positive is the ending of Double Jeopardy where alleged murderers can be retried if new evidence comes forward. So some good has come out of it, but lets attack the victims?
Edited by carinaman on Thursday 12th April 07:58
Berw said:
There is no double standard the legal system has gone out of its way to pursue this case. Scotland yard informed the family there was insufficient evidence to prosecute and advised them to wait while they continued to investigate, (this is conveniently forgotten today), the family pursued a private prosecution which failed. Tony Blair then changed the law and severely diluted the double jeopardy defense that had existed in the UK, I am sympathetic to Steven and his murder was a disgrace, I have no sympathy for his mother, and the way here action has eroded the rights of British citizens or helped in the prosecution of her sons murders.
There is a double standard in the legal system.The McCanns, through willful neglect of their children, have had the benefit of an investigation costing upwards of £11 million over a ten year period. And they are no closer to finding the perpetrator either.
Ben Needham wandered away from his parents and their parents didn't have half of the attention nor resources the McCann's have availed of to find their son.
Further more, in the case of double jeopardy, the dilution of the double jeopardy isn't an erosion of the rights of British citizens. There was a young lad murdered in a club in Stourbridge not so long ago, his murderer was set free in a massive miscarriage of justice. That murderer will now likely be retried. Sure, it might affect his rights, but he killed a man. So, if anything, it's balanced the rights of the British people in a such a way that brings justice closer to those who need it.
sgtBerbatov said:
The McCanns, through willful neglect of their children, have had the benefit of an investigation costing upwards of £11 million over a ten year period. And they are no closer to finding the perpetrator either.
And were never investigated for child neglect by the UK or Portuguese authorities?Vaud said:
sgtBerbatov said:
The McCanns, through willful neglect of their children, have had the benefit of an investigation costing upwards of £11 million over a ten year period. And they are no closer to finding the perpetrator either.
And were never investigated for child neglect by the UK or Portuguese authorities?sgtBerbatov said:
There is a double standard in the legal system.
The McCanns, through willful neglect of their children, have had the benefit of an investigation costing upwards of £11 million over a ten year period. And they are no closer to finding the perpetrator either.
Now now, it might not be wilful neglect... The "was Madeleine drugged?" line of questioning was never resolved afaik. Point me at something of record that shows otherwise by all means.The McCanns, through willful neglect of their children, have had the benefit of an investigation costing upwards of £11 million over a ten year period. And they are no closer to finding the perpetrator either.
donkmeister said:
sgtBerbatov said:
There is a double standard in the legal system.
The McCanns, through willful neglect of their children, have had the benefit of an investigation costing upwards of £11 million over a ten year period. And they are no closer to finding the perpetrator either.
Now now, it might not be wilful neglect... The "was Madeleine drugged?" line of questioning was never resolved afaik. Point me at something of record that shows otherwise by all means.The McCanns, through willful neglect of their children, have had the benefit of an investigation costing upwards of £11 million over a ten year period. And they are no closer to finding the perpetrator either.
What is on record is that on return to the bar/resturant they were in, Kate's first words were "We've failed Maddie". That's odd. Not to mention her reluctance to answer questions for the Portugese police.
Apparently it's all Cliff Richard's fault http://tapnewswire.com/2015/08/jill-dando-murdered... (half way down)
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