NIP 69mph in a 60
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Dual carriageway my side, single track on other side so I knew it was a 60 zone on the A303 towards Yeovile, must have still been on the brakes when caught. If I had full on panic braked ABS kicked in etc, as this was manned would they have just substituted dangerous driving for speeding
My currently clean licence may be a thing of the past, is it "boring yorkshireman pub talk expert" (every pub seems to have one) that 10% over plus 3mph is the lower limit for prosecution.........possible outcome? I'm hoping speed awareness course
My currently clean licence may be a thing of the past, is it "boring yorkshireman pub talk expert" (every pub seems to have one) that 10% over plus 3mph is the lower limit for prosecution.........possible outcome? I'm hoping speed awareness course
as above, if it was a dual carriageway ( Definition is a visible barrier.grass/wall etc between lanes going in different directions) then the default limit is 70 unless posted otherwise
If the road wacthree lanes wide from kerb to kerb with just painr seperating the traffic then it is a multilane single carriageway
It isnt the number of lanes, ( i have seen single lane d/c, used to br two lanes each side but now painted off with hatchings, BUT is is still a d/c). it is what keeps them apart that counts
HTH
If the road wacthree lanes wide from kerb to kerb with just painr seperating the traffic then it is a multilane single carriageway
It isnt the number of lanes, ( i have seen single lane d/c, used to br two lanes each side but now painted off with hatchings, BUT is is still a d/c). it is what keeps them apart that counts
HTH
chris4652009 said:
Yeah it'll be speed awareness I'd have thought
pretty interesting few hours though tbh, not at all patronising like some would have you believe.
Depends on who is holding the course.pretty interesting few hours though tbh, not at all patronising like some would have you believe.
Some can be incredibly patronising. A friend of mine just went on one, and the officer holding the course informed everyone that ABS reduces stopping distances.
shakotan said:
Depends on who is holding the course.
Some can be incredibly patronising. A friend of mine just went on one, and the officer holding the course informed everyone that ABS reduces stopping distances.
And he's right... with an implicit caveat, that it's compared to locked brakes.Some can be incredibly patronising. A friend of mine just went on one, and the officer holding the course informed everyone that ABS reduces stopping distances.
At least after the course, you'll know what a dual carriageway is 
And to the extent the 10%+2 guidance is still valid, it's that tickets start there, so you'd expect not to get a ticket at 67. However, there's nothing actually stopping a ticket being issued lower than that, just that it's not likely.
Bert

And to the extent the 10%+2 guidance is still valid, it's that tickets start there, so you'd expect not to get a ticket at 67. However, there's nothing actually stopping a ticket being issued lower than that, just that it's not likely.
Bert
Rangeroverover said:
Dual carriageway my side, single track on other side so I knew it was a 60 zone on the A303 towards Yeovile, must have still been on the brakes when caught. If I had full on panic braked ABS kicked in etc, as this was manned would they have just substituted dangerous driving for speeding
My currently clean licence may be a thing of the past, is it "boring yorkshireman pub talk expert" (every pub seems to have one) that 10% over plus 3mph is the lower limit for prosecution.........possible outcome? I'm hoping speed awareness course
My currently clean licence may be a thing of the past, is it "boring yorkshireman pub talk expert" (every pub seems to have one) that 10% over plus 3mph is the lower limit for prosecution.........possible outcome? I'm hoping speed awareness course
Rangeroverover said:
Dual carriageway my side, single track on other side so I knew it was a 60 zone on the A303 towards Yeovile, must have still been on the brakes when caught. If I had full on panic braked ABS kicked in etc, as this was manned would they have just substituted dangerous driving for speeding
My currently clean licence may be a thing of the past, is it "boring yorkshireman pub talk expert" (every pub seems to have one) that 10% over plus 3mph is the lower limit for prosecution.........possible outcome? I'm hoping speed awareness course
My currently clean licence may be a thing of the past, is it "boring yorkshireman pub talk expert" (every pub seems to have one) that 10% over plus 3mph is the lower limit for prosecution.........possible outcome? I'm hoping speed awareness course
Johnnytheboy said:
I knew some pedant would pipe up about it not being a DC, and shock me it was 2cv 
In fairness, for once it's not really pedantry: the road not being a DC when the OP thought it was is the entire reason he got a ticket.
If it were a DC, 69mph would be ok.
If OP had understood it wasn't, he probably wouldn't do 69mph on it into a camera.
shakotan said:
chris4652009 said:
Yeah it'll be speed awareness I'd have thought
pretty interesting few hours though tbh, not at all patronising like some would have you believe.
Depends on who is holding the course.pretty interesting few hours though tbh, not at all patronising like some would have you believe.
Some can be incredibly patronising. A friend of mine just went on one, and the officer holding the course informed everyone that ABS reduces stopping distances.
Rangeroverover said:
Dual carriageway my side, single track on other side so I knew it was a 60 zone on the A303 towards Yeovile, must have still been on the brakes when caught. If I had full on panic braked ABS kicked in etc, as this was manned would they have just substituted dangerous driving for speeding
My currently clean licence may be a thing of the past, is it "boring yorkshireman pub talk expert" (every pub seems to have one) that 10% over plus 3mph is the lower limit for prosecution.........possible outcome? I'm hoping speed awareness course
got a google map link so we can have a look?My currently clean licence may be a thing of the past, is it "boring yorkshireman pub talk expert" (every pub seems to have one) that 10% over plus 3mph is the lower limit for prosecution.........possible outcome? I'm hoping speed awareness course
Think I know the area - used to be a "suicide" lane shared between both lanes a long time ago, now it alternates in overtaking lanes.
InitialDave said:
Johnnytheboy said:
I knew some pedant would pipe up about it not being a DC, and shock me it was 2cv 
In fairness, for once it's not really pedantry: the road not being a DC when the OP thought it was is the entire reason he got a ticket.
If it were a DC, 69mph would be ok.
If OP had understood it wasn't, he probably wouldn't do 69mph on it into a camera.
Rangeroverover said:
Dual carriageway my side, single track on other side so I knew it was a 60 zone...
InitialDave said:
Johnnytheboy said:
I knew some pedant would pipe up about it not being a DC, and shock me it was 2cv 
In fairness, for once it's not really pedantry: the road not being a DC when the OP thought it was is the entire reason he got a ticket.
If it were a DC, 69mph would be ok.
If OP had understood it wasn't, he probably wouldn't do 69mph on it into a camera.
There are no fixed cameras on that stretch so it would have to have been a Scameravan which he might not have twigged until too late.
Or it could have been an unmarked plod car (or bike) which he didn't clock, although they clocked him.

Rangeroverover said:
Dual carriageway my side, single track on other side so I knew it was a 60 zone on the A303 towards Yeovile, must have still been on the brakes when caught. If I had full on panic braked ABS kicked in etc, as this was manned would they have just substituted dangerous driving for speeding
My currently clean licence may be a thing of the past, is it "boring yorkshireman pub talk expert" (every pub seems to have one) that 10% over plus 3mph is the lower limit for prosecution.........possible outcome? I'm hoping speed awareness course
Speed unawareness course most likely. From 68 in a 60.My currently clean licence may be a thing of the past, is it "boring yorkshireman pub talk expert" (every pub seems to have one) that 10% over plus 3mph is the lower limit for prosecution.........possible outcome? I'm hoping speed awareness course
On it you will learn how to classify a road and what speed limits apply to each. Perhaps not overdue for you. Enjoy.
Red Devil said:
I'll bet it was on one of the alternating 2+1 sections of the Ilminster bypass.
There are no fixed cameras on that stretch so it would have to have been a Scameravan which he might not have twigged until too late.
Or it could have been an unmarked plod car (or bike) which he didn't clock, although they clocked him.
I had my £60 Dual Carriageway lesson there back in 2003. Slowed to 70mph and got photographed There are no fixed cameras on that stretch so it would have to have been a Scameravan which he might not have twigged until too late.
Or it could have been an unmarked plod car (or bike) which he didn't clock, although they clocked him.


The camera was then burned out twice before (IIRC) being removed. That's a shame..
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