Number plate spacing
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kieronapple

Original Poster:

9 posts

107 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Hi guys,

I've just been bought a private plate i'll use this as an example X2 0JS

The plate I have has it displayed as X20 JS so there's one character moved left.

What's the likelihood I'd get pulled over for this?

Thanks

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

160 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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You should, and it should fail the mot, but I doubt you’ll ever get pulled over for it unless the police that see you really have nothing to do that day.

The amount of badly placed plates I see it’s clear no one gets pulled over for it

Post a photo on here, it will make it easier for us to post it in the crappy modified plates thread where it belongs

davek_964

11,301 posts

205 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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I used to have a number plate with illegal spacing - for several years - and never got pulled. I did however fail a few MOTs, so it's likely you will need a plate with standard spacing.

PorkInsider

6,601 posts

171 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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kieronapple said:
What's the likelihood I'd get pulled over for this?
Unfortunately the chances are quite low.

In an ideal world you’d be pulled over and made to eat your dodgy plates.

Zetec-S

6,906 posts

123 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Doubt you'll get pulled, but you might end up on here:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Wacky Racer

41,363 posts

277 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Really pisses me off this.

Imo, offenders should be pulled over and given an on the spot fine and three, or better still six penalty points.

If you want to spend a lot of money and buy ABC 1 or whatever, fair enough, that is a legitimate plate.

Sorry if I sound like a killjoy, but you can't just bend the rules to suit yourself.

Half of them look ridiculous anyway.


shakotan

10,862 posts

226 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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kieronapple said:
Hi guys,

I've just been bought a private plate i'll use this as an example X2 0JS

The plate I have has it displayed as X20 JS so there's one character moved left.

What's the likelihood I'd get pulled over for this?

Thanks
Hopefully, high.

The DVLA should enforce the option they have of rescinding number plates which are illegally spaced and apply a non-transferrable year relevant VRM to the offending vehicle.

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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£100 non endorsable FPN for number plate failing to conform to standards. If a £100 fpn every once in a while doesn't bother you and carry on displaying, a DVLA referral will be made and the private plate revoked.

speedking31

3,925 posts

166 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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I can't get too excited over this as long as the font is legitimate and the correct size. Seems pretty harmless.

ANPR is quite capable of identifying a string of characters and then checking against a database to narrow the potential matches down to 1 or 2 'real' plates. The vehicle can then be used to identify the specific one.

Also if the vehicle is involved in an incident then a 'personalised' plate is often easier to remember than a standard one.

Maybe time for a change in the law.

Before I get roasted, I can think of a lot better things to spend a minimum of £250 on.

hurstg01

3,225 posts

273 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Wacky Racer said:
Really pisses me off this.

Imo, offenders should be pulled over and given an on the spot fine and three, or better still six penalty points.

If you want to spend a lot of money and buy ABC 1 or whatever, fair enough, that is a legitimate plate.

Sorry if I sound like a killjoy, but you can't just bend the rules to suit yourself.

Half of them look ridiculous anyway.
+1

matjk

1,112 posts

170 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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I can't get excited about people moving the space about, in the real world it makes absolulety no difference to reading the plate , its a string of numbers and letters, it wouldn't effect a phone number so it wont a numberplate. The people that adjust the actual spacing to mislead is another story, like sticking 1and 3 together to make a B or use coloured bolts to add or hide bits and change characters. But i guess rules is rules and if you bent them a little, where would we be ? (France) according to Bill Murray smile

D1ckie

741 posts

220 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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I don't understand why people get so pissed over private plates and especially when they are re-positioned

The DVLA make millions from the sale of these plates and we all know if a plate's combination can be adjusted or re-positioned to read something different then the plates are more expensive.

IMO the DVLA should stop selling private plates if you can be fined for adjusting the layout

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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D1ckie said:
I don't understand why people get so pissed over private plates and especially when they are re-positioned

The DVLA make millions from the sale of these plates and we all know if a plate's combination can be adjusted or re-positioned to read something different then the plates are more expensive.

IMO the DVLA should stop selling private plates if you can be fined for adjusting the layout
If they advertised them mis-spaced etc then I'd be inclined to agree with you.
However, they don't advertise them mis-spaced, specifically say they shouldn't be mis-spaced & publish all manner of clear guidance on that & other rules in relation to the specs of plates & how they must be displayed/fitted.

I have a few private plates, they are not altered or displayed illegally though.

Edited by vonhosen on Tuesday 1st May 15:17

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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D1ckie said:
IMO the DVLA should stop selling private plates if you can be fined for adjusting the layout
Yes because the DVLA force the plate owner to go get it printed differently to what was purchased and fit it to their car?

KevinCamaroSS

13,838 posts

310 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Wacky Racer said:
Really pisses me off this.

Imo, offenders should be pulled over and given an on the spot fine and three, or better still six penalty points.

If you want to spend a lot of money and buy ABC 1 or whatever, fair enough, that is a legitimate plate.

Sorry if I sound like a killjoy, but you can't just bend the rules to suit yourself.

Half99% of them look ridiculous anyway.
There, corrected that for you smile

Totally agree with the sentiment.

D1ckie

741 posts

220 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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HantsRat said:
Yes because the DVLA force the plate owner to go get it printed differently to what was purchased and fit it to their car?
Hants, I didn't say they did, however they do increase the price of plates that CAN be re positioned to read something completely different from the original layout of the characters.

My point is double standards by the DVLA


OverSteery

3,794 posts

261 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Wacky Racer said:
Really pisses me off this.

Imo, offenders should be pulled over and given an on the spot fine and three, or better still six penalty points.

If you want to spend a lot of money and buy ABC 1 or whatever, fair enough, that is a legitimate plate.

Sorry if I sound like a killjoy, but you can't just bend the rules to suit yourself.

Half of them look ridiculous anyway.
I agree it's nearly as bad as people who do 71 mph on a clear dry motorway. Bending the rules like this needs to be punished severely.

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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D1ckie said:
Hants, I didn't say they did, however they do increase the price of plates that CAN be re positioned to read something completely different from the original layout of the characters.

My point is double standards by the DVLA
No issues with DVLA profiting off morons wishing to float the laws if you ask me smile. Charge them extra, revoke the place due to mis placed letters and repeat = more money in government coffers.

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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OverSteery said:
I agree it's nearly as bad as people who do 71 mph on a clear dry motorway. Bending the rules like this needs to be punished severely.
That's a temporary bending of the rules. Sticking on an illegal plate is permanent until replaced back to a legal one.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Tuesday 1st May 2018
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D1ckie said:
HantsRat said:
Yes because the DVLA force the plate owner to go get it printed differently to what was purchased and fit it to their car?
Hants, I didn't say they did, however they do increase the price of plates that CAN be re positioned to read something completely different from the original layout of the characters.

My point is double standards by the DVLA
The whole point of them is to secure as much as they can for desirable plates. It's responding to public appetite for them.
They warn them they can't mis-space etc quite clearly.
It's not double standards.
Their message is very clear.
Here is the plate, you can buy it but you can't alter it, do you want to buy it? And if you alter it we'll take it off you & you won't get your money back.