Time off for good behaviour - why?
Discussion
irocfan said:
I suspect that this has been asked already - but why is there time off for good behaviour? Shouldn't it be time ADDED for bad?
That can happen as well. If a prisoner commits an offence while in prison he can be convicted and sentenced by a court. But for breaches of prison rules, rather than go through the courts or allow the prison service to sentence people on it’s own initiative, it’s presented as the system freeing people before the end of the sentence for good behaviour rather than making an additional sentence for bad.
irocfan said:
I suspect that this has been asked already - but why is there time off for good behaviour? Shouldn't it be time ADDED for bad?
See it as part of the discipline regime in prisons. If the inmates had no incentive to behave, the Prison Service would have a much harder time.its always struck me as an odd concept that you get rewarded for good behavior when clearly these people only act good because there arent the opportunities to continue their criminal ways, for example youve ended up in prison for burglary/theft but get out early because whilst you were in prison you couldn't rob anyone.
i also find it remarkable when you hear these stories about people who are in prison yet routinely organise their crimes from inside and turn out to be running multi million pound drug ops an so on.
i also find it remarkable when you hear these stories about people who are in prison yet routinely organise their crimes from inside and turn out to be running multi million pound drug ops an so on.
irocfan said:
I suspect that this has been asked already - but why is there time off for good behaviour? Shouldn't it be time ADDED for bad?
In this country, there is no time off for good behaviour.Is your query about the American prison system?
Edited by agtlaw on Wednesday 6th June 12:40
PAULJ5555 said:
Our system is cr*p, get 6 years in prison, do half = 3 years, get out even earlier with a tag on your foot or go to an open prison, meet the misses for sex, go to the pub lunchtime (no drinking thou).
Where is the justice for the victims
That is rather a deep philosophical question.Where is the justice for the victims
irocfan said:
I suspect that this has been asked already - but why is there time off for good behaviour? Shouldn't it be time ADDED for bad?
when people are released from prison ' early' they are on licence and subject to recall - their licence date can be pushed back as an administrative sanction against breaking the rules ( as opposed to the judicial process of Magistrates / Judges adding Additional time to a sentence )Edited by In Arduis Fouette on Wednesday 6th June 13:19
agtlaw said:
In this country, there is no time off for good behavour.
Is your query about the American prison system?
I suspect the OP is getting confused with release on licence and how licence eligibility dates can be pushed back as an admin sanction meaning that the individual serves more of their sentence in detention than the usual release on licence / parole rules might suggest ... Is your query about the American prison system?
you can see how the ignorant might view release on licence as 'time off' their sentence , disregardign the licence conditions ( i doubt they also realise that 'bail hostels' are generally also full of those on licence or even post sentence rather than an alternative to remand)
Edited by In Arduis Fouette on Wednesday 6th June 13:28
aka_kerrly said:
its always struck me as an odd concept that you get rewarded for good behavior when clearly these people only act good because there arent the opportunities to continue their criminal ways, for example youve ended up in prison for burglary/theft but get out early because whilst you were in prison you couldn't rob anyone.
i also find it remarkable when you hear these stories about people who are in prison yet routinely organise their crimes from inside and turn out to be running multi million pound drug ops an so on.
i also find it remarkable when you hear these stories about people who are in prison yet routinely organise their crimes from inside and turn out to be running multi million pound drug ops an so on.
Smuggle a few of these in and controlling your crime syndicate is easy
In Arduis Fouette said:
agtlaw said:
In this country, there is no time off for good behavour.
Is your query about the American prison system?
I suspect the OP is getting confused with release on licence and how licence eligibility dates can be pushed back as an admin sanction meaning that the individual serves more of their sentence in detention than the usual release on licence / parole rules might suggest ... Is your query about the American prison system?
you can see how the ignorant might view release on licence as 'time off' their sentence , disregardign the licence conditions ( i doubt they relaise that 'bail hostels' are generally also full of those on licence or even post sentence rather than an alternative to remand)
irocfan said:
The Surveyor said:
See it as part of the discipline regime in prisons. If the inmates had no incentive to behave, the Prison Service would have a much harder time.
Well wouldn't the incentive be 'x' amount of time added on to your sentence?Adminstrative sanction of licence eligibility being pushed back ( in house ) vs Judicial sanction of Added Days ( awarded by a DJ in an 'external adjuication' )
In Arduis Fouette said:
irocfan said:
Gee thanks for the "ignorant" barb, appreciate that.
If you don't know something are are ignorant of it ... you are the one being the 'snowflake' here sweetie !
In Arduis Fouette said:
you can see how the ignorant might view release on licence as 'time off' their sentence , disregardign the licence conditions ( i doubt they also realise that 'bail hostels' are generally also full of those on licence or even post sentence rather than an alternative to remand)
Out of interest, how is release on licence not equivalent to time off?Edited by In Arduis Fouette on Wednesday 6th June 13:28
I presume the conditions aren't particularly onerous, i.e. don't hang out with criminal mates, stay in after dark and don't cause trouble.
donkmeister said:
Out of interest, how is release on licence not equivalent to time off?
I presume the conditions aren't particularly onerous, i.e. don't hang out with criminal mates, stay in after dark and don't cause trouble.
...and if you so much as fart out of tune, you're back inside without any trial.I presume the conditions aren't particularly onerous, i.e. don't hang out with criminal mates, stay in after dark and don't cause trouble.
Life sentence? Life licence.
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