Can trackers out of subscription be activated by Police?
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I have a tracker in my car. Its a pukka Tracker brand http://www.tracker.co.uk that the previous owner paid a "lifetime subscription" for. Unfortunately that sub did not transfer to me....lifetime meant owner, not car.
I heard a rumour, that if my car is stolen, the Police can ask Tracker to provide information on the whereabouts of my car, and they HAVE to give it, whether I have a subscription or not, as they have information on a crime.
Is this true? Can anyone confirm?
If so I will replace the tracker battery as it is kaput and causing drain to the car battery. Otherwise I will whip the tracker out and bin it.
I heard a rumour, that if my car is stolen, the Police can ask Tracker to provide information on the whereabouts of my car, and they HAVE to give it, whether I have a subscription or not, as they have information on a crime.
Is this true? Can anyone confirm?
If so I will replace the tracker battery as it is kaput and causing drain to the car battery. Otherwise I will whip the tracker out and bin it.
was8v said:
I have a tracker in my car. Its a pukka Tracker brand http://www.tracker.co.uk that the previous owner paid a "lifetime subscription" for. Unfortunately that sub did not transfer to me....lifetime meant owner, not car.
Have you considered paying for the service you want them to provide?was8v said:
I heard a rumour, that if my car is stolen, the Police can ask Tracker to provide information on the whereabouts of my car, and they HAVE to give it, whether I have a subscription or not, as they have information on a crime.
Cobblers.The police could, theoretically, get a court order to force them to release the information - but it's massively unlikely to happen.
was8v said:
I have a tracker in my car. Its a pukka Tracker brand http://www.tracker.co.uk that the previous owner paid a "lifetime subscription" for. Unfortunately that sub did not transfer to me....lifetime meant owner, not car.
I heard a rumour, that if my car is stolen, the Police can ask Tracker to provide information on the whereabouts of my car, and they HAVE to give it, whether I have a subscription or not, as they have information on a crime.
Is this true? Can anyone confirm?
If so I will replace the tracker battery as it is kaput and causing drain to the car battery. Otherwise I will whip the tracker out and bin it.
Not at all, I've dealt with a number of situations like this.I heard a rumour, that if my car is stolen, the Police can ask Tracker to provide information on the whereabouts of my car, and they HAVE to give it, whether I have a subscription or not, as they have information on a crime.
Is this true? Can anyone confirm?
If so I will replace the tracker battery as it is kaput and causing drain to the car battery. Otherwise I will whip the tracker out and bin it.
The tracking company will be more than happy to co-operate once the activation fee (between £300 - £600 can't remember exactly as it varies) is paid, typically the car owner pays and can with agreement get this reimbursed by the insurance company but they're under no legal obligation to do so because the police ask (bar I imagine incredibly serious offences such as terrorism I imagine)
Well I don't want to pay for it, but if they are going to do it anyway I will stump up for a battery (£10).
Chinese whispers maybe but I read here https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... that you can reactivate on theft if you call them, and it costs around £500. Thats less than a few years subscription too.
I'm leaning towards sticking a battery in it, on the off chance they will help out.
edit: aha! thanks zollar:
UKP said:
We have has some success with contacting tracker and getting old units reactivated.
UKP said:
Tracker can be pursuaded to activate unpaid for systems in the right circumstances and are one of the few organisations we deal with who I find to be generally helpful
https://www.ukpoliceonline.co.uk/index.php?/topic/49533-vehicle-tracker-with-no-subscription/Chinese whispers maybe but I read here https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... that you can reactivate on theft if you call them, and it costs around £500. Thats less than a few years subscription too.
I'm leaning towards sticking a battery in it, on the off chance they will help out.
edit: aha! thanks zollar:
ZOLLAR said:
The tracking company will be more than happy to co-operate once the activation fee (between £300 - £600 can't remember exactly as it varies) is paid,
What's the point of maintaining a system you are uncertain will actually work when you need it to? Reminds me of people taking out car insurance with a host of undeclared modifications. It's insurance in theory only.
Either pay the subscription or assume it doesn't exist.
(without getting into the ROI of tracker subs)
Either pay the subscription or assume it doesn't exist.
(without getting into the ROI of tracker subs)
TooMany2cvs said:
"I want my car to be trackable if stolen, but I don't want to pay anybody to do it".
Well it might never happen. Most likely won't.I don't think £150/ year subs is VFM. But happy to pay one off £300-500 if it does happen and I want the car back. I assume if they can't reactivate it as its duff they won't charge me.
Thats half what my insurance excess is. Makes perfect sense to me.
Edited by was8v on Monday 11th June 12:11
You want to have your cake and eat it. It doesn't work like that I'm afraid. How do you suppose the agents that run these 24 hour things get paid, if only on the promise of a subscription renewal in the event the asset gets stolen?
Your argument is roughly the same as not buying a train ticket because you'd rather gamble on a conductor not coming round.
Your argument is roughly the same as not buying a train ticket because you'd rather gamble on a conductor not coming round.
Durzel said:
You want to have your cake and eat it. It doesn't work like that I'm afraid. How do you suppose the agents that run these 24 hour things get paid, if only on the promise of a subscription renewal in the event the asset gets stolen?
Your argument is roughly the same as not buying a train ticket because you'd rather gamble on a conductor not coming round.
Not really, your train example is theft.Your argument is roughly the same as not buying a train ticket because you'd rather gamble on a conductor not coming round.
was8v said:
Well it might never happen. Most likely won't.
I don't think £150/ year subs is VFM. But happy to pay one off £300-500 if it does happen and I want the car back.
And, because of the unlikelihood, that's an unsustainable model for the tracker company.I don't think £150/ year subs is VFM. But happy to pay one off £300-500 if it does happen and I want the car back.
It's like saying "I don't want to pay for my car insurance all the time, but I'm happy to pay 2x the annual premium after I crash".
Durzel said:
You want to have your cake and eat it. It doesn't work like that I'm afraid. How do you suppose the agents that run these 24 hour things get paid, if only on the promise of a subscription renewal in the event the asset gets stolen?
Your argument is roughly the same as not buying a train ticket because you'd rather gamble on a conductor not coming round.
Its not really the same thing as the OP just doesn't feel it is necessary to track the car 24/7 if he already knows where it is. I can see his point.Your argument is roughly the same as not buying a train ticket because you'd rather gamble on a conductor not coming round.
Surely it is his choice to pay a premium in the event he needs it, rather than pay for something that he never uses?
Its like being a member if the AA, i have had a membership for ten yrs and not used them, which has cost me over a grand. I should have not bothered and just paid the premium for joining at the roadside with a broken car!
Durzel said:
What do you suppose the Tracker company monitoring, or even responding to requests re: your vehicle, are?
Well they certainly aren't monitoring it or responding to any requests at the moment.Unless its stolen, then as Zollar says - I will give them a call, and it seems they will kindly locate my car and charge handsomely to do so.
Shuvi McTupya said:
Surely it is his choice to pay a premium in the event he needs it, rather than pay for something that he never uses?
Sure it is. If the company choose to offer that service. They don't.Shuvi McTupya said:
Its like being a member if the AA, i have had a membership for ten yrs and not used them, which has cost me over a grand. I should have not bothered and just paid the premium for joining at the roadside with a broken car!
ITYM "...and expecting the police to be able to force the AA to recover you when you break down..."Shuvi McTupya said:
Its like being a member if the AA, i have had a membership for ten yrs and not used them, which has cost me over a grand. I should have not bothered and just paid the premium for joining at the roadside with a broken car!
Exactly.TooMany2cvs said:
And, because of the unlikelihood, that's an unsustainable model for the tracker company.
Unsustainable perhaps, but similar to the AA model above. Everyone else pays through the nose to provide the service and so offshore investment funds get fat, but I don't want to do that.TooMany2cvs said:
It's like saying "I don't want to pay for my car insurance all the time, but I'm happy to pay 2x the annual premium after I crash".
Not really. The payout from a crash could be millions. Its more like saying I don't want to pay insurance, I will just pay any claims myself.The cost for tracker to locate my car is probably about 10 mins of somebody's time.
Another crap example.
Edited by was8v on Monday 11th June 12:24
TooMany2cvs said:
Sure it is. If the company choose to offer that service. They don't.
Well it seems they do. A few people have confirmed they will do it for somewhere between £300 to £600.I'm going to ring tracker and ask them, although I expect they will be cagey about it and need a crime reference or some such.
TooMany2cvs said:
Shuvi McTupya said:
Surely it is his choice to pay a premium in the event he needs it, rather than pay for something that he never uses?
Sure it is. If the company choose to offer that service. They don't.Shuvi McTupya said:
Its like being a member if the AA, i have had a membership for ten yrs and not used them, which has cost me over a grand. I should have not bothered and just paid the premium for joining at the roadside with a broken car!
ITYM "...and expecting the police to be able to force the AA to recover you when you break down..."I Agree with your point about expecting the police to force the AA to help me, that's a fair analogy, but i think the conversation has moved on from that.
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