Suspects picked up at airports.

[Dr Jekyll]

When a fugitive is picked up at an airport trying to enter the country, what exactly happens?

Are there people on stand by near the passport checks to intervene once the passport is flagged up? Does the person checking the passport have to ask the suspect to wait while police etc are summoned?

Or do immigration generally know when the suspect checks in for their flight at the other end?

[Greendubber]

What have you done and when do you land?

[Lazadude]

My brothers ex girlfriend was "picked up" coming into Heathrow because she arrived a month earlier then her Visa started...

I don't know if its the same, but they have a few "security" personnel just behind the passport control boothes. The passport control person presses a hidden button after the screen flashes up and they wander over. A quick "Would you come with us please?" and you get marched through some code locked doors into the admin part of the airport.

In her case, she was locked up overnight air side, and on the first plane back to the US in the morning.

ETA, she got off lightly because the airline should be performing Visa checks at the originating country and therefore the airline picked up the bill for the return flight.

In the morning, she was escorted straight from the cell to her seat on the plane, and the officer with her stayed there right until they closed the cabin doors.

Edited by Lazadude on Friday 6th July 08:39

[psi310398]

Dr Jekyll said:

Or do immigration generally know when the suspect checks in for their flight at the other end?

You'd have thought so but, judging by the queues at immigration, the Government seems to be taken by surprise every single day by the volume of people arriving, despite being given enough data in good time by the airlines to be able to predict to the quarter of an hour exactly how many people will be flowing past their checks.

Unless of course, immigration does know but the Government doesn't give a st about wasting its own citizens' time (which is obvs unthinkable).

[Greendubber]

If someone is wanted by UK police and they're circulated on the PNC they normally ping up on the flight lists with the UKBA. They then inform the police, ordinarily a good few hours before they're due to land. We also get 'Billy stbags on the 09.00hrs Ryanair flight to Alicante' and they get scooped up on the way out (no holiday for you, unlucky)

We've been and picked people up from the aircraft directly or had them pulled in at customs. It's the simply a case of arresting them and informing the relevant force/dept of their detention.

[The Surveyor]

psi310398 said:

Dr Jekyll said:

Or do immigration generally know when the suspect checks in for their flight at the other end?

You'd have thought so but, judging by the queues at immigration, the Government seems to be taken by surprise every single day by the volume of people arriving, despite being given enough data in good time by the airlines to be able to predict to the quarter of an hour exactly how many people will be flowing past their checks.

Unless of course, immigration does know but the Government doesn't give a st about wasting its own citizens' time (which is obvs unthinkable).

If you think there is a problem in the UK, try getting through immigrations anywhere else in the world.

[anonymous-user]

The Surveyor said:

psi310398 said:

Dr Jekyll said:

Or do immigration generally know when the suspect checks in for their flight at the other end?

You'd have thought so but, judging by the queues at immigration, the Government seems to be taken by surprise every single day by the volume of people arriving, despite being given enough data in good time by the airlines to be able to predict to the quarter of an hour exactly how many people will be flowing past their checks.

Unless of course, immigration does know but the Government doesn't give a st about wasting its own citizens' time (which is obvs unthinkable).

If you think there is a problem in the UK, try getting through immigrations anywhere else in the world.

I do, all the time from the US and Aus to Cambodia and Indonesia and can tell you that with one or two exceptions nowhere would an incoming national wait as long as they do at major UK airports.

[CAPP0]

Lazadude said:

In the morning, she was escorted straight from the cell to her seat on the plane, and the officer with her stayed there right until they closed the cabin doors.

Edited by Lazadude on Friday 6th July 08:39

Out of interest, who pays for the flight if you're refused entry and/or ejected?

[TooMany2cvs]

cb1965 said:

I do, all the time from the US and Aus to Cambodia and Indonesia and can tell you that with one or two exceptions nowhere would an incoming national wait as long as they do at major UK airports.

Does Brum airport count as "major"? I flew in a week ago, and had to wait for at most one or two people before there was a free passport scanner.

Changing from UK-D to a Schengen internal flight at Frankfurt was a very different story.

Edited by TooMany2cvs on Friday 6th July 10:41

[48k]

Those mirrors on the wall of the immigration hall aren't mirrors they are one way windows

[Vaud]

cb1965 said:

I do, all the time from the US and Aus to Cambodia and Indonesia and can tell you that with one or two exceptions nowhere would an incoming national wait as long as they do at major UK airports.

Try Atlanta. Lots of automation, still long queues for US citizens.

[Zod]

CAPP0 said:

Lazadude said:

In the morning, she was escorted straight from the cell to her seat on the plane, and the officer with her stayed there right until they closed the cabin doors.

Edited by Lazadude on Friday 6th July 08:39

Out of interest, who pays for the flight if you're refused entry and/or ejected?

The airline on which you arrived. Happened to me once in Moscow.

[Gargamel]

cb1965 said:

The Surveyor said:

psi310398 said:

Dr Jekyll said:

Or do immigration generally know when the suspect checks in for their flight at the other end?

You'd have thought so but, judging by the queues at immigration, the Government seems to be taken by surprise every single day by the volume of people arriving, despite being given enough data in good time by the airlines to be able to predict to the quarter of an hour exactly how many people will be flowing past their checks.

Unless of course, immigration does know but the Government doesn't give a st about wasting its own citizens' time (which is obvs unthinkable).

If you think there is a problem in the UK, try getting through immigrations anywhere else in the world.

I do, all the time from the US and Aus to Cambodia and Indonesia and can tell you that with one or two exceptions nowhere would an incoming national wait as long as they do at major UK airports.

This is not my experience. UK (Heathrow) more efficient than 90% of the airports I visit (only Zurich is routinely quicker)

[Lazadude]

Zod said:

CAPP0 said:

Lazadude said:

In the morning, she was escorted straight from the cell to her seat on the plane, and the officer with her stayed there right until they closed the cabin doors.

Edited by Lazadude on Friday 6th July 08:39

Out of interest, who pays for the flight if you're refused entry and/or ejected?

The airline on which you arrived. Happened to me once in Moscow.

As above. American Air paid for her seat.

As they are never leaving Air side, they are still the responsibility of the air line. That and as mentioned previously, the Airline have a responsibility to check all passengers have the right to land/enter the destination.