Dog attacking your dog?
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I'll cut a long story short as its quite gruesome - Many moons ago my dad took his colleagues round to the house to show off his new puppy, two staffies jumped over the small wall into the garden and attacked the poor little devil. Him and 5 colleagues, and some fire fighting equipment later the attacking dogs were dead and they even got a pat on the back from Plod for their trouble.
Anyway - Question time.In todays eggshell-like world, If a dog were to attack your dog what exactly can you do? Could you kill it without legal consequence??
Anyway - Question time.In todays eggshell-like world, If a dog were to attack your dog what exactly can you do? Could you kill it without legal consequence??
Derek Smith said:
You are perfectly entitled to protect your property, but your actions, in this specific case, probably cannot, without the proper verbals, amount to killing said dogs once the immediate threat to you and your property is over.
I didn't quite mean kill them after the attack. I mean instead of trying to fight off two attacking dogs, could you not just plunge a kitchen knife into them? I was in our local park and my old lab was busy playing fetch.
A well known evil terrier came charging at him and attacked him as he ran back towards me and really went for him.
As i ran towards him and he ran back to me the terrier was hanging off his neck, as he got closer the terrier fell off and started to come at me - i was still mid jog but managed to strike that little #%^* with a kick that beckham would of been proud of.
The terrier limped off, my dog had 30odd stitches to his neck and leg and i broke a toe.
A couple of nights later the police were at the door asking for my view of the events, i had broken the terriers leg.
The police were very understanding and I offered to pay the vets bills, they advised me they would be back in touch if they thought there was a case for animal cruelty but honestly thiught it wouldnt go anywhere due to the dogs history and the wounds to my dog.
The next week the dog attacked a child and was put down, amid a flurry of facebook campaigns and how it was totally out of character.
A well known evil terrier came charging at him and attacked him as he ran back towards me and really went for him.
As i ran towards him and he ran back to me the terrier was hanging off his neck, as he got closer the terrier fell off and started to come at me - i was still mid jog but managed to strike that little #%^* with a kick that beckham would of been proud of.
The terrier limped off, my dog had 30odd stitches to his neck and leg and i broke a toe.
A couple of nights later the police were at the door asking for my view of the events, i had broken the terriers leg.
The police were very understanding and I offered to pay the vets bills, they advised me they would be back in touch if they thought there was a case for animal cruelty but honestly thiught it wouldnt go anywhere due to the dogs history and the wounds to my dog.
The next week the dog attacked a child and was put down, amid a flurry of facebook campaigns and how it was totally out of character.
xjay1337 said:
If the attacking dogs posed an immediate threat to your dog / small child etc, yes.
Or to you. A dog bite can be considered grievous bodily harm.An uncontrolled dog that attacks people or other animals is dangerous. If farmers can shoot them if they think the dog might attack his animals, he's legally entitled to kill them before they do.
Just say the right thin afterwards.
Derek Smith said:
Or to you. A dog bite can be considered grievous bodily harm.
An uncontrolled dog that attacks people or other animals is dangerous. If farmers can shoot them if they think the dog might attack his animals, he's legally entitled to kill them before they do.
Just say the right thin afterwards.
Shooting a dog is a last resort and fraught with potential legal issues that could wind up with the farmer having far more of a headache and bill than just for a few dead lambs.An uncontrolled dog that attacks people or other animals is dangerous. If farmers can shoot them if they think the dog might attack his animals, he's legally entitled to kill them before they do.
Just say the right thin afterwards.
A lot of animal welfare nuts around and people can’t just get away with things as easily as in days gone by. Plus if the farmer uses a section 1 rifle and it’s not conditioned for ‘dog’ or some specific livestock control reason then you can chuck firearms offences into the mix.
You can’t shoot a dog after the incident and I wouldn’t want to be letting off a couple of 12 bore cartridges into an area where I’ve got a loose dog and sheep.
I’d go further than just saying the right thing afterwards, you’ve got to ensure no one sees or hears what goes on.
I don't think worrying about the ramifications would come into it for me. My dog is one of the most precious things in my life, it's possible I might harm a person badly if they were hurting her, let alone another dog.
If I could have 10 minutes with the person who mistreated her for the first year of her life before I got her, I'd be a happy man.
If I could have 10 minutes with the person who mistreated her for the first year of her life before I got her, I'd be a happy man.
As others have said dogs (And any animal owned) are property in the eyes of the law. Dogs are also a "protected Animal" so it's a mixture of criminal damage and animal cruelty legislation; both of which have an exception if the act was with the intention of preventing damage to property (amongst other obvious exceptions).
So, in the circumstances described, if necessary it would be legal.
So, in the circumstances described, if necessary it would be legal.
Derek Smith said:
An uncontrolled dog that attacks people or other animals is dangerous. If farmers can shoot them if they think the dog might attack his animals, he's legally entitled to kill them before they do.
A farmer friend told me loads of people think this but they are wrong because they farmer must not know if the owner is about However to answer the OP I don't have to worry about it, my dogs take care of themselves when they are attacked - in fact we got these dogs because our other dog kept getting attacked.
Berkshire bred said:
Frankly my dog is everything to me having had him since me being 7 and him 5 months. He is now 15 and still going strong but I can honestly say i wouldn't hesitate to do anything to protect him and b
ks to the consequences.
Yup. That'd probably be one of the few things that'd properly get me going.ks to the consequences.jonobigblind said:
Shooting a dog is a last resort and fraught with potential legal issues that could wind up with the farmer having far more of a headache and bill than just for a few dead lambs.
A lot of animal welfare nuts around and people can’t just get away with things as easily as in days gone by. Plus if the farmer uses a section 1 rifle and it’s not conditioned for ‘dog’ or some specific livestock control reason then you can chuck firearms offences into the mix.
You can’t shoot a dog after the incident and I wouldn’t want to be letting off a couple of 12 bore cartridges into an area where I’ve got a loose dog and sheep.
I’d go further than just saying the right thing afterwards, you’ve got to ensure no one sees or hears what goes on.
As of about 5 years ago, certainly no problem round here. Hounds had sheep wool in their mouths, and a big .308 hole in them. Several sheep with stripped tails. Plod attended, no issues. Owner poled up “have you seen my dogs” ... yeah, they’re in the back of the Land-Rover mate. Ticket for that gun was “deer and pest control”.A lot of animal welfare nuts around and people can’t just get away with things as easily as in days gone by. Plus if the farmer uses a section 1 rifle and it’s not conditioned for ‘dog’ or some specific livestock control reason then you can chuck firearms offences into the mix.
You can’t shoot a dog after the incident and I wouldn’t want to be letting off a couple of 12 bore cartridges into an area where I’ve got a loose dog and sheep.
I’d go further than just saying the right thing afterwards, you’ve got to ensure no one sees or hears what goes on.
Dog on dog is somewhat different. Most don’t involve bloodshed. Dogs generally make a load of noise and owners get terribly upset, but it’s just dogs being dogs. Occasionally you will get vicious one though that really goes to town.
I had this a few years ago with my last dog. Normally, he'd kick off with any short muzzled dog, as I suspect he &previous owners ( he was a rescue dog) had had problems with this type. But with this female Staffie type, he just walked on, and she decided to have a go. Months before, this dog had attacked a Westie and caused it a lot of damage. Police involved, owner and neighbours claimed it was "through the fence" incident. Police Sgt knew this was untrue, but couldn't prove it. So from then on, IF any dog attacks my dog, I get involved. Then IF I get bitten, it's a case of dog not under control /dangerous dog, with owner getting Police attention, as I'm protected from a nasty dog, but my dog is not.
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