Offence for scrap man to play loud music?
Offence for scrap man to play loud music?
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wjwren

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4,484 posts

165 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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Is it illegal for scrap men to be driving round with trumpets and music blasting 'any old iron"? I spoke to my local council about it last year and they appeared to want to stop it. Few local articles in the paper also ask people to report it.

It's now started again. I spoke to the council again today and had this unhelpful reply:

Thank you for the information supplied.

The vehicle is moving on the highway, therefore is not classified as premises for the purposes of Statutory Nuisance. The noise although probably annoying, is not actionable as the occurrences are transient and intermittent with regard to the normal accepted operating hours.

In this case, Environmental Protection is unable to assist further.

rampageturke

2,625 posts

192 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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running out of stuff to complain about...?

carboy2017

743 posts

108 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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I say move on!

wjwren said:
Is it illegal for scrap men to be driving round with trumpets and music blasting 'any old iron"? I spoke to my local council about it last year and they appeared to want to stop it. Few local articles in the paper also ask people to report it.

It's now started again. I spoke to the council again today and had this unhelpful reply:

Thank you for the information supplied.

The vehicle is moving on the highway, therefore is not classified as premises for the purposes of Statutory Nuisance. The noise although probably annoying, is not actionable as the occurrences are transient and intermittent with regard to the normal accepted operating hours.

In this case, Environmental Protection is unable to assist further.

ED209

6,021 posts

274 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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Reg 97 of construction and use regulations 1986 -


Avoidance of excessive noise

97. No motor vehicle shall be used on a road in such manner as to cause any excessive noise which could have been avoided by the exercise of reasonable care on the part of the driver.

bobtail4x4

4,411 posts

139 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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The police have powers,

not that they have time or the manpower.

Flumpo

4,024 posts

103 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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Part of me thinks you are being very miserable and for the short time it goes past people’s houses, it likely brings more smiles than negative reactions.

But it got me thinking. Is it the same tune constantly? I can’t imagine the people in the truck would enjoy that and it would surely be like torture to them all day everyday.

So most likely they are trafficked or modern day slaves working against their will. Next time you see them check for one slightly better dressed senior guy watching the others like a hawk.

If this all adds up, call phone the police immediately and report it as a serious human trafficking offence.

Trophy Husband

3,924 posts

137 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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Perhaps if they sold ice creams at the same time? My dad always told us if we heard the ice cream man's jingle that he'd run out!

Edited by Trophy Husband on Tuesday 17th July 12:24

PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

206 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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wjwren said:
Is it illegal for scrap men to be driving round with trumpets and music blasting 'any old iron"? I spoke to my local council about it last year and they appeared to want to stop it. Few local articles in the paper also ask people to report it.

It's now started again. I spoke to the council again today and had this unhelpful reply:

Thank you for the information supplied.

The vehicle is moving on the highway, therefore is not classified as premises for the purposes of Statutory Nuisance. The noise although probably annoying, is not actionable as the occurrences are transient and intermittent with regard to the normal accepted operating hours.

In this case, Environmental Protection is unable to assist further.
Why does this cause you a problem?

abzmike

12,012 posts

136 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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How often does this nuisance actually inconvenience you?

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

203 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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abzmike said:
How often does this nuisance actually inconvenience you?
He is the driver for the scrap man.smile

mgtony

4,214 posts

220 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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Flumpo said:
But it got me thinking. Is it the same tune constantly? I can’t imagine the people in the truck would enjoy that and it would surely be like torture to them all day everyday.
It's a combination of that and heavy metal.

OP, you need to get out more. Then you wouldn't be home to listen to it.

Wacky Racer

41,363 posts

277 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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When I was a kid in Manchester the rag and bone man used to come round with his handcart shouting shout"Ragbone Ragbone!"

And we had trolley buses and the Corona van.

biggrin


wjwren

Original Poster:

4,484 posts

165 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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7am on a sunday is annoying

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

256 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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A few days ago someone was complaining about the sound of people enjoying themselves on a hot summer evening. Now we have the same about the sound of someone trying to earn a living.

What's going to be next?

Todd Bonzalez

2,592 posts

192 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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lol I love these forums

MinuteMan

330 posts

180 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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Riley Blue said:
A few days ago someone was complaining about the sound of people enjoying themselves on a hot summer evening. Now we have the same about the sound of someone trying to earn a living.

What's going to be next?
Can you stop typing? I can hear your keyboard from here biggrin

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

216 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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Spending a lot of time on business parks, sandwich vans with noisy musical horns, or ones that just peep their horn annoy me.

And I'm the first to admit this is irrational.

caelite

4,282 posts

142 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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MinuteMan said:
Riley Blue said:
A few days ago someone was complaining about the sound of people enjoying themselves on a hot summer evening. Now we have the same about the sound of someone trying to earn a living.

What's going to be next?
Can you stop typing? I can hear your keyboard from here biggrin
The man loves his IBM model M. biggrin

rampageturke

2,625 posts

192 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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caelite said:
The man loves his IBM model M. biggrin
try a IBM 5251 with the solenoid...

PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

206 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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wjwren said:
7am on a sunday is annoying
Fair point.