Van speed limits, a grey area...
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Having driven countless miles in Transit work vans at 50mph in 60mph zones I assumed this would be fairly straightforward.
I've just bought a Renault Trafic van to move my kids/mountain bikes about. It's the 9 seat (Inc driver) version with seatbelts/windows all round. I've Insured it for private/non commercial use.
The speed limits for it I assumed would be the same as my work vans, ie 50 in a 60 zone.
Having googled it though, it's as clear as mud! The V5 (green slip only so far) lists the tax class as diesel car with 9 seats. Does that mean it's non commercial and therefore 60 in 60 zones?
Cheers for any advice 😀
I've just bought a Renault Trafic van to move my kids/mountain bikes about. It's the 9 seat (Inc driver) version with seatbelts/windows all round. I've Insured it for private/non commercial use.
The speed limits for it I assumed would be the same as my work vans, ie 50 in a 60 zone.
Having googled it though, it's as clear as mud! The V5 (green slip only so far) lists the tax class as diesel car with 9 seats. Does that mean it's non commercial and therefore 60 in 60 zones?
Cheers for any advice 😀
A 'passenger car' means a motor vehicle constructed or adapted for the carriage of passengers, is not a goods vehicle, has no more than 8 seats in addition to the driver, has four or more wheels, has a maximum design speed >25km/h and has a maximum laden weight not exceeding 3.5 tonnes.
So long as yours comes in at least than 3.05 tonnes unladen, then normal speed limits apply.
So long as yours comes in at least than 3.05 tonnes unladen, then normal speed limits apply.
SS2. said:
A 'passenger car' means a motor vehicle constructed or adapted for the carriage of passengers, is not a goods vehicle, has no more than 8 seats in addition to the driver, has four or more wheels, has a maximum design speed >25km/h and has a maximum laden weight not exceeding 3.5 tonnes.
So long as yours comes in at least than 3.05 tonnes unladen, then normal speed limits apply.
Not necessarily. It will depend on the taxation class, and more than likely will come under the dual purpose vehicle regulations.So long as yours comes in at least than 3.05 tonnes unladen, then normal speed limits apply.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/car-der...
It's about time DVLA sorted this out once and for all as there is so much confusion out there regarding this. Vehicles with less than 3.5t gross weight subject to current car speed limits, vehicles over 3.5t gross weight or those that are towing subject to whatever slower limit is sensible.
SS2. said:
Paulm4 said:
The tax class lists it as diesel car.
So, basically I have to wait to get the full V5 to see whether it's M1 or N1 and in the meantime stick to 50 in a 60 zone.
Tax classification is irrelevant. So, basically I have to wait to get the full V5 to see whether it's M1 or N1 and in the meantime stick to 50 in a 60 zone.
Punxsatawny Phil, the famous groundhog said "Not this s
t again."SS2, you've more patience than me, matey.
If SS2 is correct, then your "van" with 9 seats is a "Van" so 50/60/70
on a single carriage way NSL with the size of the vehicle, it's road holding, your load (loose bikes etc...) and kids....maybe 50 would be the fastest you would consider driving?
You obviously care so travelling at 50 or 60 ( on D/c's) on most journeys will no doubt get you to most destinations only a minute or two longer, yet save fuel and be less stressful wondering if the FPN is going to drop on the mat.....I understand they are really hot on speeding In Scotland at the moment?
on a single carriage way NSL with the size of the vehicle, it's road holding, your load (loose bikes etc...) and kids....maybe 50 would be the fastest you would consider driving?
You obviously care so travelling at 50 or 60 ( on D/c's) on most journeys will no doubt get you to most destinations only a minute or two longer, yet save fuel and be less stressful wondering if the FPN is going to drop on the mat.....I understand they are really hot on speeding In Scotland at the moment?
watchnut said:
If SS2 is correct, then your "van" with 9 seats is a "Van" so 50/60/70
on a single carriage way NSL with the size of the vehicle, it's road holding, your load (loose bikes etc...) and kids....maybe 50 would be the fastest you would consider driving?
He is right and he said the opposite - it has car limitson a single carriage way NSL with the size of the vehicle, it's road holding, your load (loose bikes etc...) and kids....maybe 50 would be the fastest you would consider driving?
I can tell you that my 240bhp Dual liner is faster, safer and lighter than many cars and I have zero intention of sticking to 50 !
V8RX7 said:
watchnut said:
If SS2 is correct, then your "van" with 9 seats is a "Van" so 50/60/70
on a single carriage way NSL with the size of the vehicle, it's road holding, your load (loose bikes etc...) and kids....maybe 50 would be the fastest you would consider driving?
He is right and he said the opposite - it has car limitson a single carriage way NSL with the size of the vehicle, it's road holding, your load (loose bikes etc...) and kids....maybe 50 would be the fastest you would consider driving?
I can tell you that my 240bhp Dual liner is faster, safer and lighter than many cars and I have zero intention of sticking to 50 !
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