should the police have pulled her?
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driving back from the seaside today along the A165 in east yorksire. its a pretty straight flowing 60 mph road with a few 50mph and the occcasional 30mph village.
driving along on cruise at 60mph and hit a column of traffic about a dozen deep. slow down to 40mph and on a straight and see why theres traffic, at the front is a red Hyundai Getz and behind that an astra police car.
with them in the 'lead' and the police car behind no one is prepared to overtake - im sure someone can give me the distance needed to over take a car doing 40 while not exceeding 60.
this column of traffic extends to over 2 dozen cars as we crawl along at between 35-40mph in the 60mph zone. this contiuned for 15 minutes untill a dual carrage way were eveyone past them. as we over took it was an old lady, bolt straight and 12 inches from the screen.
should this person have been pulled for driving to slow, which in the circumstances - dry, bright, sunny - could be dangerous? i read last week the police were doing eye sight tests on 'pulls'. been a betting man theres no way this person was safe to drive, either through lack of confidence or failing eye sight.
i know its only 15mins and theres no minium speed limits but surley the underlining issues need investigating. if it was a young lad in a nova with a loud back bos they'd have give him a tug
driving along on cruise at 60mph and hit a column of traffic about a dozen deep. slow down to 40mph and on a straight and see why theres traffic, at the front is a red Hyundai Getz and behind that an astra police car.
with them in the 'lead' and the police car behind no one is prepared to overtake - im sure someone can give me the distance needed to over take a car doing 40 while not exceeding 60.
this column of traffic extends to over 2 dozen cars as we crawl along at between 35-40mph in the 60mph zone. this contiuned for 15 minutes untill a dual carrage way were eveyone past them. as we over took it was an old lady, bolt straight and 12 inches from the screen.
should this person have been pulled for driving to slow, which in the circumstances - dry, bright, sunny - could be dangerous? i read last week the police were doing eye sight tests on 'pulls'. been a betting man theres no way this person was safe to drive, either through lack of confidence or failing eye sight.
i know its only 15mins and theres no minium speed limits but surley the underlining issues need investigating. if it was a young lad in a nova with a loud back bos they'd have give him a tug
REALIST123 said:
Of course not. Whilst I understand your frustration, at the end of the day it’s a limit, not a target.
Not entirely correct. Someone can and should be pulled for going too slow.On the motorway that would have been a pull.
On a single carriageway 60 it’s debatable but plod should have pulled them for a sight test if nothing else. People often drive slowly because they feel unsure, if that is because they can’t see properly they shouldn’t be on the road.
trickywoo said:
REALIST123 said:
Of course not. Whilst I understand your frustration, at the end of the day it’s a limit, not a target.
Not entirely correct. Someone can and should be pulled for going too slow.On the motorway that would have been a pull.
On a single carriageway 60 it’s debatable but plod should have pulled them for a sight test if nothing else. People often drive slowly because they feel unsure, if that is because they can’t see properly they shouldn’t be on the road.
The original post implies that it would have been easy for the police car to pass the old lady and uncork the bottle.
Why didn’t it?
REALIST123 said:
Of course not. Whilst I understand your frustration, at the end of the day it’s a limit, not a target.
Perhaps but in my view it's also bad manners and inconsiderate to cause a queue in that way and for me it's a touch disappointing if the police in effect condone that behaviour by doing nothing. If someone was really driving at 35 in a 60 with a clear road in front I would have thought a following police car could pull them across and give them a breath test on the basis they were going unnecessarily slowly so perhaps they'd been out for lunch and had one too many? If the result's negative at least the driver would know they'd been pulled for not making normal progress and may modify their behaviour in future.
If in this case the old lady was going so slowly because she didn't feel able to go any faster then perhaps being pulled over by a police car would have given her the nudge she needs to think about surrendering her licence; if someone isn't confident enough to exceed 35 to 40 in a 60 limit they really shouldn't be on the road at all IMO.
trickywoo said:
Not entirely correct. Someone can and should be pulled for going too slow.
On the motorway that would have been a pull.
On a single carriageway 60 it’s debatable but plod should have pulled them for a sight test if nothing else. People often drive slowly because they feel unsure, if that is because they can’t see properly they shouldn’t be on the road.
Indeed you can fail your test for not "keeping up with traffic/limits etc"On the motorway that would have been a pull.
On a single carriageway 60 it’s debatable but plod should have pulled them for a sight test if nothing else. People often drive slowly because they feel unsure, if that is because they can’t see properly they shouldn’t be on the road.
kingswood said:
driving back from the seaside today along the A165 in east yorksire. its a pretty straight flowing 60 mph road with a few 50mph and the occcasional 30mph village.
driving along on cruise at 60mph and hit a column of traffic about a dozen deep. slow down to 40mph and on a straight and see why theres traffic, at the front is a red Hyundai Getz and behind that an astra police car.
with them in the 'lead' and the police car behind no one is prepared to overtake - im sure someone can give me the distance needed to over take a car doing 40 while not exceeding 60.
this column of traffic extends to over 2 dozen cars as we crawl along at between 35-40mph in the 60mph zone. this contiuned for 15 minutes untill a dual carrage way were eveyone past them. as we over took it was an old lady, bolt straight and 12 inches from the screen.
should this person have been pulled for driving to slow, which in the circumstances - dry, bright, sunny - could be dangerous? i read last week the police were doing eye sight tests on 'pulls'. been a betting man theres no way this person was safe to drive, either through lack of confidence or failing eye sight.
i know its only 15mins and theres no minium speed limits but surley the underlining issues need investigating. if it was a young lad in a nova with a loud back bos they'd have give him a tug
Who knows.driving along on cruise at 60mph and hit a column of traffic about a dozen deep. slow down to 40mph and on a straight and see why theres traffic, at the front is a red Hyundai Getz and behind that an astra police car.
with them in the 'lead' and the police car behind no one is prepared to overtake - im sure someone can give me the distance needed to over take a car doing 40 while not exceeding 60.
this column of traffic extends to over 2 dozen cars as we crawl along at between 35-40mph in the 60mph zone. this contiuned for 15 minutes untill a dual carrage way were eveyone past them. as we over took it was an old lady, bolt straight and 12 inches from the screen.
should this person have been pulled for driving to slow, which in the circumstances - dry, bright, sunny - could be dangerous? i read last week the police were doing eye sight tests on 'pulls'. been a betting man theres no way this person was safe to drive, either through lack of confidence or failing eye sight.
i know its only 15mins and theres no minium speed limits but surley the underlining issues need investigating. if it was a young lad in a nova with a loud back bos they'd have give him a tug
They may have considered it an appropriate speed for the conditions, or they may have considered it inappropriate for them but not as important as something else they were making their way to (even if that didn't require an emergency response).
never thought of the drinking angle but makes sense considering its Sunday lunch time and was about 4pm.
the police wouldnt overtake as they're on the clock and been paid either way, prob says more about the calibre of the old bill these days.
as for my time been wasted i wasnt in any rush and prob got home 5 mins late. buts its the principle, seems you can drive as crap as you want aslong as its under the limit, and the old bill arnt interested unless your going 5mph over the limit and theres an easy £100 in it for them
the police wouldnt overtake as they're on the clock and been paid either way, prob says more about the calibre of the old bill these days.
as for my time been wasted i wasnt in any rush and prob got home 5 mins late. buts its the principle, seems you can drive as crap as you want aslong as its under the limit, and the old bill arnt interested unless your going 5mph over the limit and theres an easy £100 in it for them
xx99xx said:
Someone work it out, how long was the delay caused by driving at 40mph for 15 minutes, as opposed to 60mph for 15 minutes?
Then let's hear from the driver to let us know what he missed out on due to this delay or what the knock on impacts to the rest of the day were?
To use the oft-quoted phrase "you realise this is Pistonheads right, not Mumsnet?".Then let's hear from the driver to let us know what he missed out on due to this delay or what the knock on impacts to the rest of the day were?
Since you seem to be missing the very obvious point I'll spell it out for you: it's not about getting to your destination any quicker, it's about not being frustrated by getting held up at an uneccesarily slow speed by some plum that clearly shouldn't be on the road. It's about being able to drive at a reasonable speed for the road and conditions, something the old duffer clearly couldn't manage.
vonhosen said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Can't you fail your driving test for driving too slowly?
It's easier to fail for driving in excess of the limits (by smaller margins & periods than driving below the limits).You can fail your test for all manner of things that wouldn't see you prosecuted.
35 in a 60 is fine, if irritating for others. In country areas tractors often do 10mph in 60 limits.
vonhosen said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Can't you fail your driving test for driving too slowly?
It's easier to fail for driving in excess of the limits (by smaller margins & periods than driving below the limits).You can fail your test for all manner of things that wouldn't see you prosecuted.
Johnnytheboy said:
vonhosen said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Can't you fail your driving test for driving too slowly?
It's easier to fail for driving in excess of the limits (by smaller margins & periods than driving below the limits).You can fail your test for all manner of things that wouldn't see you prosecuted.
xx99xx said:
Someone work it out, how long was the delay caused by driving at 40mph for 15 minutes, as opposed to 60mph for 15 minutes?
Then let's hear from the driver to let us know what he missed out on due to this delay or what the knock on impacts to the rest of the day were?
5 minutes.Then let's hear from the driver to let us know what he missed out on due to this delay or what the knock on impacts to the rest of the day were?
Can I have my parrot please Mr?
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