Met police officer could be charged for ramming moped
Met police officer could be charged for ramming moped
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fellows4

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292 posts

111 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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A Met Police officer who knocked a teenager off a moped while employing a new ramming tactic could face criminal charges.

The officer carried out the so-called tactical contact to stop the 17-year-old from riding dangerously.

The boy, who was not wearing a helmet, was admitted to hospital with serious head injuries but later discharged.

A decision is due over whether evidence gathered by the police watchdog should be passed to prosecutors.

If he is prosecuted, the officer could be charged with actual bodily harm or grievous bodily harm.

The Met could also decide if there is a case to answer for misconduct, which could result in dismissal.

source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46440...

So

28,176 posts

252 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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fellows4 said:
A Met Police officer who knocked a teenager off a moped while employing a new ramming tactic could face criminal charges.

The officer carried out the so-called tactical contact to stop the 17-year-old from riding dangerously.

The boy, who was not wearing a helmet, was admitted to hospital with serious head injuries but later discharged.

A decision is due over whether evidence gathered by the police watchdog should be passed to prosecutors.

If he is prosecuted, the officer could be charged with actual bodily harm or grievous bodily harm.

The Met could also decide if there is a case to answer for misconduct, which could result in dismissal.

source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-46440...
"The boy, who was not wearing a helmet, was admitted to hospital with serious head injuries but later discharged."

I clearly don't understand the word 'serious'.

Du1point8

22,911 posts

222 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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dont see an issue and moped rider needed it

Davel

8,982 posts

288 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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What he said

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Is this the snow flake thread ? Where is Diane Abbott ?

paintman

7,860 posts

220 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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In today's politically correct climate with ever more attention being lavished on the poor unfortunate offender than the victim I can't say I'm surprised. Disappointed perhaps but definitely not surprised.

Any pursuit of a motorbike/moped etc in my service - late 70s through to the noughties - would be immediately aborted by the control room Inspector for fear of the scrote injuring him/herself & they would ride away with impunity.

Should this go ahead & a conviction & dismissal follow then you can expect a massive rise in criminality involving anything with an engine & two wheels.
Even if it doesn't then I expect a great reluctance on the part of officers to carry out this type of stop so the criminal can continue sticking two fingers up.

Davie

6,237 posts

245 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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I'm confused.

Was there not something on here last week, clips of the Police knocking moped scrotes off and some big wig saying the tactics were working and encouraged.

Now, the Police are being prosecuted for doing exactly that?


alant

205 posts

249 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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And weren't the papers reporting that even the PM supported the tactic.

I am sure that I was like many others when I read this and thought 'at last'

As already said if this goes ahead it will be a big thumbs up for those doing the stealing

alant

205 posts

249 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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I should have emphasised that I meant at last when I read about the police using the tactics to knock them off

Haltamer

2,672 posts

110 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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fellows4 said:
A Met Police officer who knocked a teenager off a moped while employing a new ramming tactic
I initially read that as enjoying a new ramming tactic..
hehe

poing

8,743 posts

230 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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We don't have enough police and when they take government sanctioned action they face prosecution. Pretty much sums up modern Britain.

Wacky Racer

41,358 posts

277 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Schmed said:
Is this the snow flake thread ? Where is Diane Abbott ?
But Labour has raised concerns about the approach, which shadow home secretary Diane Abbott said was "potentially very dangerous".

Thankyou4calling

10,989 posts

203 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Of course he could be charged.

But he won’t be.

Nothing to see. Move on.

paintman

7,860 posts

220 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Schmed said:
Is this the snow flake thread ? Where is Diane Abbott ?
Having her say in a quote in the linked article:
"But Labour has raised concerns about the approach, which shadow home secretary Diane Abbott said was "potentially very dangerous"."

No st Sherlock.rolleyes

Jonesy1972

157 posts

109 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Wacky Racer said:
Schmed said:
Is this the snow flake thread ? Where is Diane Abbott ?
But Labour has raised concerns about the approach, which shadow home secretary Diane Abbott said was "potentially very dangerous".
For fks sake! Never mind what the scumbags are up to, we really can’t harm them, or hurt their feelings. Boils my piss.

mac96

6,493 posts

173 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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To be fair, it doesn't say that the officer will be prosecuted or disciplined- it just says that a process is under way to see if he should be. It's the headline which is melodramatic. I also don't have much faith in a 'journalist' who can't tell the difference between a proven serious head injury and a routine precautionary hospital admission in case of one.
If the officer followed guidelines, presumably he will be OK. I hope so anyway.

Surely the real issue is that various people who would be better employed fighting crime will now have to waste their time on this process, and that this officer and his peers are being discouraged from doing their job.

Also, even the suggestion that the officer may get into trouble sends entirely the wrong message to the 17 year old's family, peers and associates about what behaviour is acceptable.



Russian Troll Bot

26,087 posts

257 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Jonesy1972 said:
Wacky Racer said:
Schmed said:
Is this the snow flake thread ? Where is Diane Abbott ?
But Labour has raised concerns about the approach, which shadow home secretary Diane Abbott said was "potentially very dangerous".
For fks sake! Never mind what the scumbags are up to, we really can’t harm them, or hurt their feelings. Boils my piss.
She went on to say Police weren't above the law, before being corrected by the actual police

bad company

21,919 posts

296 months

Tuesday 4th December 2018
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Thankyou4calling said:
Of course he could be charged.

But he won’t be.

Nothing to see. Move on.
I hope you’re right but even the threat of prosecution weakens the police and will make other officers think twice.

Mr Tidy

31,524 posts

157 months

Wednesday 5th December 2018
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Wacky Racer said:
But Labour has raised concerns about the approach, which shadow home secretary Diane Abbott said was "potentially very dangerous".
A miracle has occurred in my lifetime - Diane Abbott seems to have got 3 words in the right order (or did her Press Office arrange it for her)? Cupidest Stunt to walk the planet, yet got to be an MP - her constituents should hang their heads in shame!

I hope the Met keep using that tactic - after all it seems to work!

And if you go to hospital with properly serious head injuries, surely there's no way you're likely to be discharged the next day?

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

291 months

Wednesday 5th December 2018
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So said:
"The boy, who was not wearing a helmet, was admitted to hospital with serious head injuries but later discharged."

I clearly don't understand the word 'serious'.
In road traffic terms anything requiring visiting hospital to get checked over qualifies as serious injury, as does shock or concussion.