Driving an untaxed car
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Why do people post up this kind of thing, they only get ridiculed and rightly so, like the guy recently who parked up in a taxi rank (or was it a bus stop), half on double yellows, claimed it wasn't obvious that it was a taxi rank/bus stop but posted up a photo of a very obvious sign stating it was a taxi rank/bus stop and then he complained he got a ticket and was there a way to get out of it!
I got done for 67 in a 50 recently, maybe I should have posted asking for advice as the very obvious mobile camera van was on the other side of the dual carriageway and I wasn't aware it covered both directions.
OP, I think you know the answer!
I got done for 67 in a 50 recently, maybe I should have posted asking for advice as the very obvious mobile camera van was on the other side of the dual carriageway and I wasn't aware it covered both directions.
OP, I think you know the answer!
seanyboy2212 said:
smokey mow said:
There was a cheeper option available to you at the time which was to buy a months road tax for the journey you were planning to make.
The point of the fine being high is to act as a deterrent to you in the first place so you don't drive an un-taxed car on the road.
Thing is it was unplanned, unusually finished work early that day and just wanted to drive the car, I was spotted literally a mile from my door but yes I was in the wrong! We know that but I was just asking if it’s worth writing a letter to them, I pay tax on another 4 vehicles and just feel the fines high for what it was.The point of the fine being high is to act as a deterrent to you in the first place so you don't drive an un-taxed car on the road.
seanyboy2212 said:
Thing is it was unplanned, unusually finished work early that day and just wanted to drive the car, I was spotted literally a mile from my door but yes I was in the wrong! We know that but I was just asking if it’s worth writing a letter to them, I pay tax on another 4 vehicles and just feel the fines high for what it was.
So what's the betting that if you had not been caught this first time you would have kept on doing it until you did get caught 
seanyboy2212 said:
Thing is it was unplanned, unusually finished work early that day and just wanted to drive the car, I was spotted literally a mile from my door but yes I was in the wrong! We know that but I was just asking if it’s worth writing a letter to them, I pay tax on another 4 vehicles and just feel the fines high for what it was.
Do you mean you accidentally drove the car? As in you tripped and landed in the drivers seat? I’m not sure how else it could be unplanned.
Monkeylegend said:
seanyboy2212 said:
Thing is it was unplanned, unusually finished work early that day and just wanted to drive the car, I was spotted literally a mile from my door but yes I was in the wrong! We know that but I was just asking if it’s worth writing a letter to them, I pay tax on another 4 vehicles and just feel the fines high for what it was.
So what's the betting that if you had not been caught this first time you would have kept on doing it until you did get caught 
Countdown said:
Monkeylegend said:
seanyboy2212 said:
Thing is it was unplanned, unusually finished work early that day and just wanted to drive the car, I was spotted literally a mile from my door but yes I was in the wrong! We know that but I was just asking if it’s worth writing a letter to them, I pay tax on another 4 vehicles and just feel the fines high for what it was.
So what's the betting that if you had not been caught this first time you would have kept on doing it until you did get caught Pica-Pica said:
I suspect a tip-off. Should this be in a ‘I have never got on with my neighbours’ type of thread?
Again, the coincidence of the neighbours (a) spotting the one-and-only time OP decides to drive his untaxed car
(b) Knowing that this is the only one of the 5 cars that OP pays tax for which isn't taxed
(c) not liking OP sufficiently enough to report him
(d) Police / DVLA having sufficient resources to hunt down and catch OP specifically in response to tip-off
...seem so remote as to be unlikely. Dare i suggest OP regularly drives untaxed car and was "unfortunate" enough to get caught?
seanyboy2212 said:
I have deleted my initial message from this topic.
Another deleted initial post 
If only the first person to reply would quote the initial post, so people reading the thread later on can still see what was originally posted and understand what actually went on (and how stupid the OP has been in a lot of cases!)
It would be so much easier and better if we just paid for road fund on the fuel we used.
I have a few cars and it is a massive ballache having to tax one for a whole month then cancel it again just because it's a sunny winter day and it might be fun to take a drop-top out but the rest of the winter, the weather's going to go back to awful.
It just seems to me that the way the system is administered at the moment exists purely as a way to raise extra revenue in fines.
I have a few cars and it is a massive ballache having to tax one for a whole month then cancel it again just because it's a sunny winter day and it might be fun to take a drop-top out but the rest of the winter, the weather's going to go back to awful.
It just seems to me that the way the system is administered at the moment exists purely as a way to raise extra revenue in fines.
Sticking VED on fuel would be by far the easiest way, but think is too late to implement now. As a positive it would be far more simple, and could vastly reduce the work/cost of the DVLA. Problem is fuel already has a lot of duty on it already, and is political hot potato that governments don't want to be seen to raising more, even if it meant the overall cost was the same. Can get away with austerity/Brexit/universal credit, and all still business as usual. They have left fuel duty frozen for the last few years though below inflation to keep the tabloids happy though as they know that would actually lose them votes.
Other issues would be keeping tabs on MOT and insurance as need to have those to sort VED, and ANPR etc. can only work so far. Main issue I guess would be switch to electric cars though, as no point now sticking it on fuel, when increasing amounts of cars not using it. No easy answers I guess!
Other issues would be keeping tabs on MOT and insurance as need to have those to sort VED, and ANPR etc. can only work so far. Main issue I guess would be switch to electric cars though, as no point now sticking it on fuel, when increasing amounts of cars not using it. No easy answers I guess!
I drove round for 4 months without tax, a genuine mistake, wife had filed the reminder in her pile of papers thinking it was hers. When I realised I got straight in the website and tried to backdate it. No such luck.
I paid it and expected a fine in the post, which is what they do. Heard nothing since last year.
I paid it and expected a fine in the post, which is what they do. Heard nothing since last year.
Tom _M said:
Sticking VED on fuel would be by far the easiest way, but think is too late to implement now. As a positive it would be far more simple, and could vastly reduce the work/cost of the DVLA. Problem is fuel already has a lot of duty on it already, and is political hot potato that governments don't want to be seen to raising more, even if it meant the overall cost was the same. Can get away with austerity/Brexit/universal credit, and all still business as usual. They have left fuel duty frozen for the last few years though below inflation to keep the tabloids happy though as they know that would actually lose them votes.
Other issues would be keeping tabs on MOT and insurance as need to have those to sort VED, and ANPR etc. can only work so far. Main issue I guess would be switch to electric cars though, as no point now sticking it on fuel, when increasing amounts of cars not using it. No easy answers I guess!
VED is not payable by numerous people who use UK roads and in some cases it would be illegal to impose it on them. It also provides some minor checks and balances in respect to Insurance and MOTs. Other issues would be keeping tabs on MOT and insurance as need to have those to sort VED, and ANPR etc. can only work so far. Main issue I guess would be switch to electric cars though, as no point now sticking it on fuel, when increasing amounts of cars not using it. No easy answers I guess!
Tom _M said:
Sticking VED on fuel would be by far the easiest way, but think is too late to implement now. As a positive it would be far more simple, and could vastly reduce the work/cost of the DVLA. Problem is fuel already has a lot of duty on it already, and is political hot potato that governments don't want to be seen to raising more, even if it meant the overall cost was the same. Can get away with austerity/Brexit/universal credit, and all still business as usual. They have left fuel duty frozen for the last few years though below inflation to keep the tabloids happy though as they know that would actually lose them votes.
Other issues would be keeping tabs on MOT and insurance as need to have those to sort VED, and ANPR etc. can only work so far. Main issue I guess would be switch to electric cars though, as no point now sticking it on fuel, when increasing amounts of cars not using it. No easy answers I guess!
It would make far more sense to put VED into fuel cost, as there is no way to avoid paying it that way. (And hopefully I'd be much better off with 2 cars in Band K that don't do much over 10,000 miles a year between them). Other issues would be keeping tabs on MOT and insurance as need to have those to sort VED, and ANPR etc. can only work so far. Main issue I guess would be switch to electric cars though, as no point now sticking it on fuel, when increasing amounts of cars not using it. No easy answers I guess!
But maybe the redundancy bill in Swansea and resultant unemployment is a factor!
Just an update on my initial post as it may help someone in the future. After writing to the DVLA I received a letter back today from them with regards to driving the GT3 while untaxed, as expected I still have to pay a fine, but they have reduced it to £123.00 so half of what the initial fine was.
This may help someone in the same situation as I found myself which is all I was looking for, and a lesson learnt from my perspective.
Thank you for all your replies, not that I read half of them, I stopped after the assumptions were made about myself, my neighbours, cats dogs and budgies!! Got to love the internet, full of some sado's
This may help someone in the same situation as I found myself which is all I was looking for, and a lesson learnt from my perspective.
Thank you for all your replies, not that I read half of them, I stopped after the assumptions were made about myself, my neighbours, cats dogs and budgies!! Got to love the internet, full of some sado's
seanyboy2212 said:
Just an update on my initial post as it may help someone in the future. After writing to the DVLA I received a letter back today from them with regards to driving the GT3 while untaxed, as expected I still have to pay a fine, but they have reduced it to £123.00 so half of what the initial fine was.
This may help someone in the same situation as I found myself which is all I was looking for, and a lesson learnt from my perspective.
Thank you for all your replies, not that I read half of them, I stopped after the assumptions were made about myself, my neighbours, cats dogs and budgies!! Got to love the internet, full of some sado's
I imagine it would help people more if they could still see your initial post. Without that, they're unlikely to even know what your situation was.This may help someone in the same situation as I found myself which is all I was looking for, and a lesson learnt from my perspective.
Thank you for all your replies, not that I read half of them, I stopped after the assumptions were made about myself, my neighbours, cats dogs and budgies!! Got to love the internet, full of some sado's
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