HID Light Conversions
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Son has just bought a T5 VW van and he’s not happy with the lights. He’s thinking about buying a HID conversion kit from E bay as they seem pretty cheap (between £16 and £40). I googled them and it’s a little confusing wether they are legal or not. Anybody have first hand experience with them, are they any good, are they legal etc?
As others have pointed out, it's a construction & use reg offense, fine is fairly minor and I believe non-endorsable (unless they are bad enough that they do him for driving with disregard). Whilst a minority of them perform well, a lot of these kits are badly designed and really don't work with halogen lights causing a really dazzling beam pattern.
Has he considered a set of high powered halogen bulbs? These are fully legal, and can be a night and day (heh
) improvement over an old halogen. My recommendation would be for osram night breaker lasers, or Phillips racingvisions.
Has he considered a set of high powered halogen bulbs? These are fully legal, and can be a night and day (heh
) improvement over an old halogen. My recommendation would be for osram night breaker lasers, or Phillips racingvisions.caelite said:
Has he considered a set of high powered halogen bulbs? These are fully legal, and can be a night and day (heh
) improvement over an old halogen. My recommendation would be for osram night breaker lasers, or Phillips racingvisions.
This. T5 lights are indeed poor (as are the ones on T4s - I have left my full beam on accidentally before and not been flashed by anyone coming the other way) and the usual advice amongst the T4/5 community is to go for Night Breakers or similar, they do make a hell of a difference.
) improvement over an old halogen. My recommendation would be for osram night breaker lasers, or Phillips racingvisions.caelite said:
My recommendation would be for osram night breaker lasers, or Phillips racingvisions.
^ this.Also, I’ve found the motorcycle versions are better in the car too, because they last longer.
These are identical in fit and size to car bulbs, but the motorcycle versions are far more vibration-resistant. Vibrations are probably the main thing that reduces bulb life.
I would have no qualms in fitting HIDs to projectors - the beam pattern is fine, as long as they are levelled correctly, you're not going to be blinding anyone. Swap the bulbs for the MOT. I've checked the pattern on the MOT man's tester - he agreed it was spot on, but had to fail it.
HIDs in standard reflectors are s
t and to be avoided.
Yes, it's naughty, and will probably cause the zombie apocalypse, whatever....
HIDs in standard reflectors are s
t and to be avoided. Yes, it's naughty, and will probably cause the zombie apocalypse, whatever....
Another vote for the Osram bulbs , also the Halfords version which often comes up on a BOGOF promotion .
I have fitted them to several cars and had huge improvements especially if the lights were given a thorough cleaning inside and out alongside being properly set up .
It's not just hid kits that give illegal light patterns, I have found many of the high output bulbs from the far east give very poor light patterns . They also don't seem to last very long .
I have fitted them to several cars and had huge improvements especially if the lights were given a thorough cleaning inside and out alongside being properly set up .
It's not just hid kits that give illegal light patterns, I have found many of the high output bulbs from the far east give very poor light patterns . They also don't seem to last very long .
anonymous said:
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You must be a very angry person
Question was quite simple and if your inferring that my second post meant he won’t care well you would be wrong. The next reply could of said they were the best thing since sliced bread and he may of gone ahead and purchased them. As it stands, thanks to all the replies he is now purchasing either a set of Osram or Phillips bulbs.otolith said:
MOT fail if the man notices them.
Incorrect, at least it was a few years agoWe actually went to VOSA on this issue several years ago on the ukmkivs forum.
This was around 2013/4, and I don't have their exact response to hand
But basically it was along the lines of that if the headlights produce less than 2000 Lumen of output then auto levelling and washers are not required.
However since most (nearly all) MOT garages don't use the equipment to measure the lumen output they must assume they are under this limit, if the HID kit is fitted.
Headlight washers and/or levelling systems must work, if fitted.
Anyway I certainly had no problems with HID so long as the high beams work immediately and not like the HID dipped
Joe5y said:
Retroman said:
It's not legal and won't pass an MOT either.
Not true."Existing halogen headlamp units shouldn’t be converted to be used with HID bulbs. If such a conversion has been done, you must fail the headlamp.".
https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/documents/m...
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