Parking Accident

[Pabl0]

Person A is about to reverse parallel park on his side of a road.

Waits for a gap in traffic to begin the manoeuvre and begins when clear.

Person B, on the other side of the road, crosses the road and aims for the parking space, possibly direct or to parallel park once beyond the space.

Rear of Person A's car is about 8-12 inches from being in the space when cars collide with a little damage - offside rear of Person A's car and offside front door of Person B's car..

Person B is still on an angle in the road. Person A is on an angle part way into the parking space.

Passenger in Person B's car claims they were stationary when impact occurred.

Who would be responsible for accident?

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[frisbee]

B.

It is pretty obvious when someone is waiting to parallel park.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

If A is reversing and B is driving forward, it puts A in a very weak position regardless of B's selfishness or stupidity. The onus is always on a reversing car to ensure it's safe to do so and to make sure you don't come into contact with anything else. Unless B accepts the blame, or you have an independent witness, if the insurers get involved, A is going to end up having it go against them.

B is going to tell a completely different story, ( i saw a space on the other side of the road, checked all was clear, indicated and slowly began to drive into it. Then out of the blue, this car that had already passed the space, decided to reverse back up the road into it without any warning, not even looking to see if it was still clear. At the last second he saw me and braked but it was too little too late and he hit me.) The only fact that A & B will agree on is that A was reversing and B wasn't.

Edited by TwigtheWonderkid on Saturday 23 March 18:28

[anonymous-user]

Are you actually describing this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov7HFwrRFyc#t=35s

[IJWS15]

I don’t see how this happened unless B drove through A

They both have to be on the same side of the road

[agtlaw]

Pabl0 said:

Who would be responsible for accident?

The BMW driver.

[Pabl0]

ScotHill said:

Are you actually describing this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov7HFwrRFyc#t=35s

No


Person B crosses road facing wrong direction - behind Person A at an angle to road.
Person A started manoeuvre with no one behind and almost in parking space with rear wheels.
Impact happens offside rear of Person A with offside front door Person B.
If Person B parked he would be facing wrong way with offside parked to curb.
If Person A parked he would be facing correct way with nearside parked against kerb.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Pabl0 said:

ScotHill said:

Are you actually describing this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov7HFwrRFyc#t=35s

No


Person B crosses road facing wrong direction - behind Person A at an angle to road.
Person A started manoeuvre with no one behind and almost in parking space with rear wheels.
Impact happens offside rear of Person A with offside front door Person B.
If Person B parked he would be facing wrong way with offside parked to curb.
If Person A parked he would be facing correct way with nearside parked against kerb.

Yes, I get it, but I refer you to my answer above. You were reversing, he was driving forward, there was a collision. Unless B is 100& honest, you are stuffed.

[Pabl0]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Pabl0 said:

ScotHill said:

Are you actually describing this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov7HFwrRFyc#t=35s

No


Person B crosses road facing wrong direction - behind Person A at an angle to road.
Person A started manoeuvre with no one behind and almost in parking space with rear wheels.
Impact happens offside rear of Person A with offside front door Person B.
If Person B parked he would be facing wrong way with offside parked to curb.
If Person A parked he would be facing correct way with nearside parked against kerb.

Yes, I get it, but I refer you to my answer above. You were reversing, he was driving forward, there was a collision. Unless B is 100& honest, you are stuffed.

I have not said who was driving - just described what has happened.

[Centurion07]

Is there no fault attributable to B since he crossed the centre line?

[Pabl0]

Attempted diagram https://thumbsnap.com/m0ZZjlBB

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Pabl0 said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Pabl0 said:

ScotHill said:

Are you actually describing this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov7HFwrRFyc#t=35s

No


Person B crosses road facing wrong direction - behind Person A at an angle to road.
Person A started manoeuvre with no one behind and almost in parking space with rear wheels.
Impact happens offside rear of Person A with offside front door Person B.
If Person B parked he would be facing wrong way with offside parked to curb.
If Person A parked he would be facing correct way with nearside parked against kerb.

Yes, I get it, but I refer you to my answer above. You were reversing, he was driving forward, there was a collision. Unless B is 100& honest, you are stuffed.

I have not said who was driving - just described what has happened.

Apologies, I assumed you were car A. If you are B, it's your fault, but if you follow my description in the 3rd post of the thread, you'll get away with it and A will get the blame! Depends on what kind of a bloke you are.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Pabl0 said:

Attempted diagram https://thumbsnap.com/m0ZZjlBB

Exactly as I imagined it from your initial description.

[Pabl0]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

Exactly as I imagined it from your initial description.

[DanL]

How the bloody hell did that happen, and result in a collision? Did neither car see the other?

[anonymous-user]

Surely you are talking about a 5mph impact which should be minimal damage and easily resolvable . Probably a case of two idiots colliding.

[anonymous-user]

Pabl0 said:

Attempted diagram https://thumbsnap.com/m0ZZjlBB

Ah okay.

Is there any law against parking facing the 'wrong' way, i.e. on the right hand side of the road? I sometimes hear people talking about this as if it's out of order, but it happens all the time with no problems that I can see.

[Pabl0]

Thesprucegoose said:

Surely you are talking about a 5mph impact which should be minimal damage and easily resolvable . Probably a case of two idiots colliding.

Talking slight scuff on Person A's bumper but person B door with minor dent and scrape but wanting complete repair door skin/door and blaming Person A.

[Pabl0]

DanL said:

How the bloody hell did that happen, and result in a collision? Did neither car see the other?

I suspect Person A was watching where he was going, the parked cars between the space, the traffic from behind and did not spot Person B moving across from the other side of the road.

Also, suspect Person B just went for the parking space without seeing Person A already in the process of manoeuvring into it.

[anonymous-user]

Pabl0 said:

Talking slight scuff on Person A's bumper but person B door with minor dent and scrape but wanting complete repair door skin/door and blaming Person A.

let insurance sort it out then, and why person a and b its tedious and makes little difference, which driver were you?