Do the police still hold identity parades?
Do the police still hold identity parades?
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Thankyou4calling

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202 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Or is it all DNA now?

So

28,176 posts

251 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Thankyou4calling said:
Or is it all DNA now?
Don't know. But it was an early warning for me that the police don't always tell the truth. As a teen I agreed to take part in one at £x for Y hours. I was there three times the agreed time and they refused to pay a penny extra. It was clear they knew full well that they would not be keeping their end of the bargain. Not a good example to be setting to young people.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Believe it’s mostly mugshots on computer these days, so they pick pictures of similar looking people along with one of the suspect.

Happy to be corrected by someone at the sharp end.

Mojooo

13,291 posts

209 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Yes they do - its all explained in PACE CODE D.

The one most likely to be used though is the showing of moving images or still images.

zarjaz1991

6,820 posts

152 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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So said:
Don't know. But it was an early warning for me that the police don't always tell the truth. As a teen I agreed to take part in one at £x for Y hours. I was there three times the agreed time and they refused to pay a penny extra. It was clear they knew full well that they would not be keeping their end of the bargain. Not a good example to be setting to young people.
It's actually a very GOOD example. The police routinely lie to get what they want, and don't care who they trample on in the process.
A good lesson for a young person for adult life up ahead. Wish I'd known about it, I was brought up to respect and trust the police without question!

JonDerz

156 posts

156 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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My understanding is that if they are looking for a witness to identify someone to strengthen a case etc they will show them mugshot pictures of people with similar features and ask them to point them out. As far as I’m aware, they don't do the physical parade that I think you're referring to.

zarjaz1991

6,820 posts

152 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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I would never volunteer for an identity parade, in case the victim points at me and says 'yes, that's him, HE did it!'.

Mojooo

13,291 posts

209 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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zarjaz1991 said:
I would never volunteer for an identity parade, in case the victim points at me and says 'yes, that's him, HE did it!'.
It can be done without permission if you refuse.

lee44

37 posts

190 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Back in my late teens I was in town when approached by a plain clothes detective who asked if I would take part in one. I agreed (after checking I would be ok if I was picked out!) and was directed to the station there and then. It was nothing like you see in the movies, very badly organised by the police, it seem to mainly led by the accused solicitor. He choose nine people, including me, out of a group of twenty or so (you were only paid if chosen). We all seemed very different from the accused, some low life who had been witnessed breaking into a house by an elderly neighbour. We all lined up in a corridor before the witness was brought in to walk along the line, it was very intimidating for her and she didn’t have a clue who it was. I was told after that the fact he had done it wasn’t in question but without any whitness evidence there was very little chance of convicting him, quite depressing really. It took about an hour and I was given a tenner, cash in hand.

Graveworm

9,226 posts

100 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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So said:
Don't know. But it was an early warning for me that the police don't always tell the truth. As a teen I agreed to take part in one at £x for Y hours. I was there three times the agreed time and they refused to pay a penny extra. It was clear they knew full well that they would not be keeping their end of the bargain. Not a good example to be setting to young people.
How many was Y hours and how long were you there for? The old ID centres were booked solid and if one parade took even 2 hours then it would fall apart. It would make no sense for them to "Refuse to pay" if they could or should, it was not their money.

zarjaz1991

6,820 posts

152 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Mojooo said:
It can be done without permission if you refuse.
So they would arrest me? Under what law?

Rayy

131 posts

170 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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It's now done by using videos rather than a 'live' line-up, if that makes sense. Uses a system the police call Viper.

So

28,176 posts

251 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Graveworm said:
So said:
Don't know. But it was an early warning for me that the police don't always tell the truth. As a teen I agreed to take part in one at £x for Y hours. I was there three times the agreed time and they refused to pay a penny extra. It was clear they knew full well that they would not be keeping their end of the bargain. Not a good example to be setting to young people.
How many was Y hours and how long were you there for? The old ID centres were booked solid and if one parade took even 2 hours then it would fall apart. It would make no sense for them to "Refuse to pay" if they could or should, it was not their money.
It was a long time ago, but I think we were told it would be 1-1.5 hours but we were there for an afternoon / evening. We were recruited from the local HE college.


Doofus

34,389 posts

202 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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zarjaz1991 said:
I would never volunteer for an identity parade, in case the victim points at me and says 'yes, that's him, HE did it!'.
That's not how they work smile

Mojooo

13,291 posts

209 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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zarjaz1991 said:
Mojooo said:
It can be done without permission if you refuse.
So they would arrest me? Under what law?
They dont need to arrest you - they just need a picture of you, which could be one from a previous arrest or something they take from facebook etc

obviously it would have to be a good face on one

Doofus

34,389 posts

202 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Mojooo said:
zarjaz1991 said:
I would never volunteer for an identity parade, in case the victim points at me and says 'yes, that's him, HE did it!'.
It can be done without permission if you refuse.
Only if you're the suspect.

They don't compel members of the public to join a parade, and then use their photos without permission if they refuse. They don't force people to volunteer.

They don't do ID parades in order to identify a suspect from a random bunch of people. They already have somebody in the frame. The parade is to gain additional evidence against them.


Richard-D

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93 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Mojooo said:
zarjaz1991 said:
Mojooo said:
It can be done without permission if you refuse.
So they would arrest me? Under what law?
They dont need to arrest you - they just need a picture of you, which could be one from a previous arrest or something they take from facebook etc

obviously it would have to be a good face on one
You're thinking about his comment too reasonably. Try to imagine he's an idiot and is suggesting that the police will arrest him despite being there solely to make up numbers in the parade.

the tribester

2,931 posts

115 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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I think people are getting confused with the suspect and volunteers attendance at the ID parade.

Jag_NE

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129 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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zarjaz1991 said:
I would never volunteer for an identity parade, in case the victim points at me and says 'yes, that's him, HE did it!'.
Agree Scott. It’s just asking for trouble.

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

289 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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Only when they've been caught red handed. jester