Parking ticket, worth contesting?
Parking ticket, worth contesting?
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juliethotel

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255 posts

178 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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As you can see I park my little old Alfa on a big bit of pavement. Been doing it for months.

I have no other feasible option for free parking. I live in one of 6 houses very closeby (In Farnham Town center if you're wondering), all of the houses have two cars and all apart from us have a second parking space which they pay £50 a year for. They were allocated on a first come first serve basis and we lost out.

There are two big car parks very close by but I'd have to pay over £1100pa for an annual parking permit. I don't really think that's fair but I've been dealing with it by parking in the location shown.

I realise I have no right to park there and obviously understand you're not really supposed to park on a pavement but as it's such a large space and doesn't inconvenience anyone I can't think of a good reason why I shouldn't.







The issue I have is with the reason given on the ticket "parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours" There is a row of parking spaces along the road(shown in 3rd pic) which is controlled, Mon - Sat 8am-8pm Permit holders A or 2 hours no return within 1(pic 4) But that quite obviously pertains to those spaces.

What do you guys think? worth contesting on grounds that where I'm parked isn't actually restricted?

Am I actually parked In/On a street? do the double yellows have any relevance?

If the ticket (issued by Guildford borough council) said "parked on pavement" then I'd swallow that pill and pay up but I think it's an iffy reason. Strange it's taken months to get a ticket too. New warden taking a punt maybe?




sherman

15,236 posts

244 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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You had to cross the double yellow lines to get parked there. No contest pay the fine.

Keep paying the fines until it makes more financial sense to pay for the £1100 carpark.

elanfan

5,527 posts

256 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Think I’d be dropping the manager of the care home a few quid every month to park in their car park!

I think the ticket is incorrectly issued. An appeal on the basis you suggest will cost you nothing!

speedking31

3,916 posts

165 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Double yellow lines apply to the full width of the road, which includes the pavements. You are bang to rights, pay up.

https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q387.htm

Countdown

49,432 posts

225 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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juliethotel said:
I realise I have no right to park there and obviously understand you're not really supposed to park on a pavement but as it's such a large space and doesn't inconvenience anyone I can't think of a good reason why I shouldn't.
FWIW parking on the footpath usually leads to the footpath deteriorating over time and then gradually resembling a Beirut footpath. It makes the place look like a dump and costs the Council tens of thousands to fix it (IF they ever bother to fix it).

Bill

58,672 posts

284 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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They have you bang to rights, but it might be worth checking to see if that but of pavement belongs to the council or the home whose drive it's next to.

Edited by Bill on Friday 26th April 08:14

Hol

9,316 posts

229 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Countdown said:
juliethotel said:
I realise I have no right to park there and obviously understand you're not really supposed to park on a pavement but as it's such a large space and doesn't inconvenience anyone I can't think of a good reason why I shouldn't.
FWIW parking on the footpath usually leads to the footpath deteriorating over time and then gradually resembling a Beirut footpath. It makes the place look like a dump and costs the Council tens of thousands to fix it (IF they ever bother to fix it).
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juliethotel said:
I realise I have no right to park there and obviously understand you're not really supposed to park on a pavement.
- Correct.

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juliethotel said:
I can't think of a good reason why I shouldn't.
See your own previous statement.


hutchst

3,727 posts

125 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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You might look into the ownership of that bit of land. It might be off the back of the pavement looking at the dividing strip in the adjacent driveway.

Alex L

2,594 posts

283 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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hutchst said:
You might look into the ownership of that bit of land. It might be off the back of the pavement looking at the dividing strip in the adjacent driveway.
Part is owned by Waverley Borough Council and part Waverley District Council

speedking31

3,916 posts

165 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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It appears to be either the footpath, or a footpath, either way it is not a parking space.
Google Street.

Stoofa

959 posts

197 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Personally - as your reason for contesting is "I don't want to pay the fine for my pavement parking" I wouldn't bother.
However, it costs you nothing and delays slightly your fine paying...

bassanclan

197 posts

271 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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There doesn't appear to be a T-bar at the end of the double yellow lines

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1567573/Te...

speedking31

3,916 posts

165 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Those were the days ... :nostalgia:

Now the authorities can throw up any old shonky approximation of a sign and enforce compliance. If anyone complains then the law is changed to make the signage legal, rather than forcing the signage to be changed.

speedchick

5,288 posts

251 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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bassanclan said:
There doesn't appear to be a T-bar at the end of the double yellow lines

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1567573/Te...
There doesn't need to be an end bar anymore.

numtumfutunch

5,173 posts

167 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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sherman said:
You had to cross the double yellow lines to get parked there. No contest pay the fine.

Keep paying the fines until it makes more financial sense to pay for the £1100 carpark.
Exactly what I was about to post

Matt_E_Mulsion

1,746 posts

94 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Even if you contest it on a technicality, they'll be back to do you for the 'right' offence.

KungFuPanda

4,640 posts

199 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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The double yellow lines apply to the pavement too. You must know that you shouldn’t be parking there simply because it’s a bloody pavement.

I live in Manchester City Centre and have to pay £1100 for 12 months of parking. I however think this is good value given that it allows me to park in any one of up to 15 central NCP car parks 24 hours a day.

Spx

182 posts

131 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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They may be chancing their arm with this ticket

In Brighton special provision has been made to stop parking on particular pavements but people park ‘unticketed’ if they are not obstructing

4rephill

5,168 posts

207 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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juliethotel said:
.........I realise I have no right to park there and obviously understand you're not really supposed to park on a pavement but as it's such a large space and doesn't inconvenience anyone I can't think of a good reason why I shouldn't........
So you know you shouldn't park there, but you don't understand why you shouldn't park there? scratchchin

That's got to be one of the funniest things I've read on here in quite a while! rofl

(Do you know Who's on first? confusedwinkhehe )


I see there's a nice big park on the opposite side of the road - Why not just park in there?

After all, there's even more space there, and it wouldn't really inconvenience anyone! smile

thatsprettyshady

4,693 posts

194 months

Friday 26th April 2019
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Turn around, go up the road, go left at the pub ("The Lost Boy") and park on that bit of road. No restrictions there and a 3 minute walk from where you are currently parked.