Speeding Blitz A12
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I have been caught on the A12 speeding with a hand held radar gun and you cannot see them they used the device and got me from behind as they were sitting on the slip road at Leytonstone at 3am. I will hold me hands up I was over the limit they have said there is a big push on this road due to all the accidents. They were there again this evening on the way into work on motorbikes stopping people as you come up the hill before the bend to go onto the East Cross route where it drops from the 50 to the 40 zone.
Appreciate the warning.
I have noticed that once you come down the A12 and hit the Redbridge Roundabout it is like something happens and ALL traffic rules go out of the window. If you try to negotiate this roundabout in the correct lane, you will be in trouble. It is a total free for all and then as you head towards Leytonstone and London it just gets worse.
I would bet my bottom dollar the increasing accidents they refer to have little or nothing to do with speeding, just the awful, awful standards of driving in the area.
Driving into London via the A12 and Redbridge roundabout?
Be careful out there.....
I have noticed that once you come down the A12 and hit the Redbridge Roundabout it is like something happens and ALL traffic rules go out of the window. If you try to negotiate this roundabout in the correct lane, you will be in trouble. It is a total free for all and then as you head towards Leytonstone and London it just gets worse.
I would bet my bottom dollar the increasing accidents they refer to have little or nothing to do with speeding, just the awful, awful standards of driving in the area.
Driving into London via the A12 and Redbridge roundabout?
Be careful out there.....
Slightly OT, but I noticed that Whipps Cross Road has had it's speed limit dropped from 40 to 30. Always seemed strange coming off the 3 lane high walled section of the A12 that is mostly 40 and being able to do the same speed on a road with the forest, houses and pedestrians.
OP, you haven't told us how fast you were going!
OP, you haven't told us how fast you were going!
Meps said:
I have been caught on the A12 speeding with a hand held radar gun and you cannot see them they used the device and got me from behind as they were sitting on the slip road at Leytonstone at 3am. I will hold me hands up I was over the limit they have said there is a big push on this road due to all the accidents. They were there again this evening on the way into work on motorbikes stopping people as you come up the hill before the bend to go onto the East Cross route where it drops from the 50 to the 40 zone.
Thanks, I use that stretch a lot at weekends and you've definitely saved me a ban.Meps said:
I have been caught on the A12 speeding with a hand held radar gun and you cannot see them they used the device and got me from behind as they were sitting on the slip road at Leytonstone at 3am. I will hold me hands up I was over the limit they have said there is a big push on this road due to all the accidents. They were there again this evening on the way into work on motorbikes stopping people as you come up the hill before the bend to go onto the East Cross route where it drops from the 50 to the 40 zone.
So all the camera's they already have on that road don't actually reduce accidents or speeding?? Well there's a major surprise....mgtony said:
Slightly OT, but I noticed that Whipps Cross Road has had it's speed limit dropped from 40 to 30. Always seemed strange coming off the 3 lane high walled section of the A12 that is mostly 40 and being able to do the same speed on a road with the forest, houses and pedestrians.
OP, you haven't told us how fast you were going!
They caught me doing 71 I thought I was in a 50 zone the court letter says I was in a 40. The Met now sit as you come out from the underpasses on both sides and catch you very easily it's a quick road 3 am in the morning finishing a night shift cautioned me straight away. One guy kept going the other night when they lit him up don't know whether they caught him. I thought they had to be visible apparently this is not the case.OP, you haven't told us how fast you were going!
Ahhh yes I have seen them a couple of times in the lay by near leytonstone under the electronic advert sign once at 0330am.
Will be an easy catch that time of the morning because the phasing of the lights on the a12 before redbridge means if you catch a f
king red light you catch them all so after redbridge you open up.
Will be an easy catch that time of the morning because the phasing of the lights on the a12 before redbridge means if you catch a f
king red light you catch them all so after redbridge you open up.Real police work is tough from a mental and personal perspective for the officers. This is much easier and results in sage nodding from enough people to justify it.
Whenever I’ve posted anything that says “for goodness sake we are going down a path here” I am - even on ph - met with a “speed kills” mantra.
It’s depressing.
Whenever I’ve posted anything that says “for goodness sake we are going down a path here” I am - even on ph - met with a “speed kills” mantra.
It’s depressing.
Chainsaw Rebuild said:
What a stellar use of resources.... #dosomerealpolicework
And "realpolicework" is what exactly? 
Enforcing the law? - Or just enforcing the laws that suit you?
Catching people who break the law? - Or just catching the people who break the laws that you don't break?
"realpolicework" for traffic police is guess what? - Dealing with drivers who break the law!
That includes catching people driving without licences, driving without insurance, driving whilst drunk, driving whilst under the influence of drugs, driving without an MOT, driving stolen vehicles, driving in excess of the posted speed limit etc., etc., etc.
You don't think the police should bother catching speeding drivers?, why?, because they're not hurting anybody?
The same could be said of people driving without a licence.
The same could be said of people driving without insurance.
The same could be said of people driving without an MOT.
The same could be said of people driving stolen cars.
None of them are necessarily hurting anyone.
Drink/drug drivers are a different matter of course, but in your ideal World, where the police do "realpolicework", and ignore traffic offences, there would be no one on the roads to catch them!
Perhaps though, you feel that the drink /drugs drivers should be caught, because they could cause an accident that could hurt other road users?
But by that logic, speeding drivers should also be caught, because there is a possibility of them causing an accident that could hurt other road users.
Unless of course, you have evidence to show that, in the entire history of the automobile, not one single person has ever been injured due to a speeding driver?
If you can't provide that evidence, then you have to accept that drivers breaking the speed limit can pose a risk to others on the road, and therefore, just like drink/drug drivers, should be targeted by the police, to help protect other road users.
SmoothCriminal said:
Ahhh yes I have seen them a couple of times in the lay by near leytonstone under the electronic advert sign once at 0330am.
Will be an easy catch that time of the morning because the phasing of the lights on the a12 before redbridge means if you catch a fking red light you catch them all so after redbridge you open up.
Coming off the A406 they like to even park up on the roundsbout itself to catch anyone jumping the lights, and there's new cameras attached to lampposts on the A10 which are easily dismissed as CCTV, rather than the obvious speed camera on its own dedicated pole. Lots of councils are making a fortune out of box junctions too, so you really have to watch for everything in London Will be an easy catch that time of the morning because the phasing of the lights on the a12 before redbridge means if you catch a f
king red light you catch them all so after redbridge you open up.
4rephill said:
And "realpolicework" is what exactly?
Enforcing the law? - Or just enforcing the laws that suit you?
Catching people who break the law? - Or just catching the people who break the laws that you don't break?
"realpolicework" for traffic police is guess what? - Dealing with drivers who break the law!
That includes catching people driving without licences, driving without insurance, driving whilst drunk, driving whilst under the influence of drugs, driving without an MOT, driving stolen vehicles, driving in excess of the posted speed limit etc., etc., etc.
You don't think the police should bother catching speeding drivers?, why?, because they're not hurting anybody?
The same could be said of people driving without a licence.
The same could be said of people driving without insurance.
The same could be said of people driving without an MOT.
The same could be said of people driving stolen cars.
None of them are necessarily hurting anyone.
Drink/drug drivers are a different matter of course, but in your ideal World, where the police do "realpolicework", and ignore traffic offences, there would be no one on the roads to catch them!
Perhaps though, you feel that the drink /drugs drivers should be caught, because they could cause an accident that could hurt other road users?
But by that logic, speeding drivers should also be caught, because there is a possibility of them causing an accident that could hurt other road users.
Unless of course, you have evidence to show that, in the entire history of the automobile, not one single person has ever been injured due to a speeding driver?
If you can't provide that evidence, then you have to accept that drivers breaking the speed limit can pose a risk to others on the road, and therefore, just like drink/drug drivers, should be targeted by the police, to help protect other road users.
Yawn.Enforcing the law? - Or just enforcing the laws that suit you?
Catching people who break the law? - Or just catching the people who break the laws that you don't break?
"realpolicework" for traffic police is guess what? - Dealing with drivers who break the law!
That includes catching people driving without licences, driving without insurance, driving whilst drunk, driving whilst under the influence of drugs, driving without an MOT, driving stolen vehicles, driving in excess of the posted speed limit etc., etc., etc.
You don't think the police should bother catching speeding drivers?, why?, because they're not hurting anybody?
The same could be said of people driving without a licence.
The same could be said of people driving without insurance.
The same could be said of people driving without an MOT.
The same could be said of people driving stolen cars.
None of them are necessarily hurting anyone.
Drink/drug drivers are a different matter of course, but in your ideal World, where the police do "realpolicework", and ignore traffic offences, there would be no one on the roads to catch them!
Perhaps though, you feel that the drink /drugs drivers should be caught, because they could cause an accident that could hurt other road users?
But by that logic, speeding drivers should also be caught, because there is a possibility of them causing an accident that could hurt other road users.
Unless of course, you have evidence to show that, in the entire history of the automobile, not one single person has ever been injured due to a speeding driver?
If you can't provide that evidence, then you have to accept that drivers breaking the speed limit can pose a risk to others on the road, and therefore, just like drink/drug drivers, should be targeted by the police, to help protect other road users.
"realpolicework" for traffic police is guess what? - Dealing with drivers who break the law!
It was not traffic Police standard Met unit with a radar gun their exact words we have been told to be here due to the accidents on the A12. Seen lots of accidents at 3 in the morning (NOT). Seen even more of the Met in Leytonstone Mc Donalds at 3 in the morning I must have had the ones that just finished their chicken nuggets.
It was not traffic Police standard Met unit with a radar gun their exact words we have been told to be here due to the accidents on the A12. Seen lots of accidents at 3 in the morning (NOT). Seen even more of the Met in Leytonstone Mc Donalds at 3 in the morning I must have had the ones that just finished their chicken nuggets.
Meps said:
"realpolicework" for traffic police is guess what? - Dealing with drivers who break the law!
It was not traffic Police standard Met unit with a radar gun their exact words we have been told to be here due to the accidents on the A12. Seen lots of accidents at 3 in the morning (NOT). Seen even more of the Met in Leytonstone Mc Donalds at 3 in the morning I must have had the ones that just finished their chicken nuggets.
Or, maybe going after road related offences that are actually dangerous. It was not traffic Police standard Met unit with a radar gun their exact words we have been told to be here due to the accidents on the A12. Seen lots of accidents at 3 in the morning (NOT). Seen even more of the Met in Leytonstone Mc Donalds at 3 in the morning I must have had the ones that just finished their chicken nuggets.
Maybe:
- people on phones
- people not observing lane discipline
- tailgating
- inappropriate speed (not just going marginally over an arbitrary and often stupid speed limit)
- etc
4rephill said:
But by that logic, speeding drivers should also be caught, because there is a possibility of them causing an accident that could hurt other road users.
Unless of course, you have evidence to show that, in the entire history of the automobile, not one single person has ever been injured due to a speeding driver?
If you can't provide that evidence, then you have to accept that drivers breaking the speed limit can pose a risk to others on the road, and therefore, just like drink/drug drivers, should be targeted by the police, to help protect other road users.
Do you have evidence to show that, in the entire history of the automobile, not one single person has ever been injured due to a driver sticking to the speed limit?Unless of course, you have evidence to show that, in the entire history of the automobile, not one single person has ever been injured due to a speeding driver?
If you can't provide that evidence, then you have to accept that drivers breaking the speed limit can pose a risk to others on the road, and therefore, just like drink/drug drivers, should be targeted by the police, to help protect other road users.
If not, what's your point about speed limits? They are not a magic number that affects the likelihood of accidents. Logically, they could well be varied between busy times of day and early hours of the morning, and accident rates would be unaffected.
Meps said:
Update
£732 fine and 6 points...... At least I paid for their shift.......
Harsh fine but it is earnings related and you’re lucky on the 6 points rather than a ban given it was 70mph+ in a 40, so all in a pretty good outcome for you imo.£732 fine and 6 points...... At least I paid for their shift.......
That said you didn’t pay for their shift... you paid for your fine and a questionable victim surcharge. It’s quite a hard argument that the police should leave a road alone if it’s become a problem with people doing 70 in a 40... most fatalities on these types of road do happen at night and generally involve speeds more than 40% above the limit.
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