Average speed cameras popping up everywhere?
Average speed cameras popping up everywhere?
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fiju

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704 posts

92 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Is it me or are they just appearing everywhere? At what point do we say enough is enough?

jamei303

3,084 posts

185 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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fiju said:
Is it me or are they just appearing everywhere? At what point do we say enough is enough?
When they introduce them for pedestrians...

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

185 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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It's the clear direction of travel (no pun intended).

As an aside, how may pairs of cameras are actually switched on at any point in time? Impossible to tell which ones are live, but presumably not all are at any one point in time?


MuscleSaloon

1,614 posts

204 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Helicopter123 said:
how may pairs of cameras are actually switched on at any point in time? Impossible to tell which ones are live, but presumably not all are at any one point in time?
There's a 6 mile 50 limit stretch near me with average speed cameras on. They've been there for years, having been amongst the first in the country, and its always been a source of debate as to whether they are functional or not at any given time. Either way they are effective at getting everyone to stay within the posted limit.

Otherwise ….



giantdefy

700 posts

142 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Helicopter123 said:
It's the clear direction of travel (no pun intended).

As an aside, how may pairs of cameras are actually switched on at any point in time? Impossible to tell which ones are live, but presumably not all are at any one point in time?
Why would they not all be switched on? The system is fully automated and the speeders just pop out of the system and recieve a letter.

spookly

4,391 posts

124 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Not round here. There's only one live fixed camera in the whole county, although a few of the old ones are still there, but inoperative and growing moss on them.

BertBert

21,265 posts

240 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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spookly said:
Not round here. There's only one live fixed camera in the whole county, although a few of the old ones are still there, but inoperative and growing moss on them.
Is it possible that you are talking about regular fixed cameras, rather than av speed cams (being the topic of the thread)?
Bert

Wacky Racer

41,345 posts

276 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Whilst I don't like them, they are much more effective than a single Gatso or Truvelo, which you can just increase your speed after you have. passed them. They don't even need to be switched on. Are you prepared to take the risk with your licence?

Big brother is here to stay, although generally I am in favour of speed limits providing they are sensible and realistic.

BertBert

21,265 posts

240 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Wacky Racer said:
Big brother is here to stay, although generally I am in favour of speed limits providing they are sensible and realistic.
Av cams are very effective as a lot of drivers stick to a chunk below the limit on their speedos to keep safe from a ticket which in a 50 tends to take the speed down to 45.

nonsequitur

20,083 posts

145 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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As I have posted previously, many drivers, in an ASC zone, slow right down to pass the cameras then speed up until the next set. I don't think it works like that.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,081 posts

179 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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fiju said:
At what point do we say enough is enough?
You're free to say that whenever you want.

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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nonsequitur said:
As I have posted previously, many drivers, in an ASC zone, slow right down to pass the cameras then speed up until the next set. I don't think it works like that.
It doesn't, but people are dumb, and the reason we have conservative speed limits in the first place.

Skellum

89 posts

96 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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If you think things are oppressive now, just wait until we're all in electric vehicles- which is now a clear aim of Government.
Your electric car will be full of tech to 'monitor its performance'. Eventually cars will use GPS and roadside wifi to regulate your speed. If you do transgress, I'll bet your own car will eventually be able to grass you up. Your speeding tickets will arrive in the post with no cameras required. In the event of a crash, your driving data will all have been logged and available to plod for inspection.
I'm already surprised how many people are happy to have insurance companies install spyware in their vehicles in the hope of a lower premium.
Big brother? You ain't seen nothing yet.

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Lol ok then.

Bit early to be drinking isn't it?

NGee

2,953 posts

193 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Skellum said:
If you think things are oppressive now, just wait until we're all in electric vehicles- which is now a clear aim of Government.
Your electric car will be full of tech to 'monitor its performance'. Eventually cars will use GPS and roadside wifi to regulate your speed. If you do transgress, I'll bet your own car will eventually be able to grass you up. Your speeding tickets will arrive in the post with no cameras required. In the event of a crash, your driving data will all have been logged and available to plod for inspection.
I'm already surprised how many people are happy to have insurance companies install spyware in their vehicles in the hope of a lower premium.
Big brother? You ain't seen nothing yet.
This is just about spot on. Not sure why the next poster joked about your suggestion.

However I think you might have one bit wrong - you won't get a speeding ticket in the post, it will be deducted automatically by direct debit from you 'driving' account.

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

199 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Careful, you’ll run out of tinfoil.

laugh

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

185 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Skellum said:
If you think things are oppressive now, just wait until we're all in electric vehicles- which is now a clear aim of Government.
Your electric car will be full of tech to 'monitor its performance'. Eventually cars will use GPS and roadside wifi to regulate your speed. If you do transgress, I'll bet your own car will eventually be able to grass you up. Your speeding tickets will arrive in the post with no cameras required. In the event of a crash, your driving data will all have been logged and available to plod for inspection.
I'm already surprised how many people are happy to have insurance companies install spyware in their vehicles in the hope of a lower premium.
Big brother? You ain't seen nothing yet.
But then many people are quite happy to stick within speed limits and obey motoring laws?

Maybe wrap your car in tin foil to protect yourself?

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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NGee said:
This is just about spot on. Not sure why the next poster joked about your suggestion.

However I think you might have one bit wrong - you won't get a speeding ticket in the post, it will be deducted automatically by direct debit from you 'driving' account.
Because it's dumb.

People have been saying that black boxes were going to be the end of times for years, if not a decade by now. Guess what, it hasn't happened.

Roadside Wifi and mandatory GPS monitoring? Give me a break.

As has been said above, less tinfoil required methinks.

NGee

2,953 posts

193 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Durzel said:
NGee said:
This is just about spot on. Not sure why the next poster joked about your suggestion.

However I think you might have one bit wrong - you won't get a speeding ticket in the post, it will be deducted automatically by direct debit from you 'driving' account.
Because it's dumb.

People have been saying that black boxes were going to be the end of times for years, if not a decade by now. Guess what, it hasn't happened.

Roadside Wifi and mandatory GPS monitoring? Give me a break.

As has been said above, less tinfoil required methinks.
That's what people used to say about speed cameras, ANPR, PPC, etc, etc. It was only a few years ago that the WWW, mobile phones, GPS, etc, etc, were all an impossible dream.

Maybe it's time to wake up and smell the coffee.

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Sunday 19th May 2019
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Yeah people used to say that mobile phones, internet, etc wouldn't happen (did they?) ipso facto everything anyone thinks couldn't happen can and will. Great logic there. How far back are we going? The invention of the wheel?

You conveniently ignored my point about black boxes. How long have they been around? And how long have the loony bin been saying it'll spell the death of motoring..