Average Speed Camera Question
Average Speed Camera Question
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Meltham Terrier

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379 posts

162 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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Sorry if this has already been covered elsewhere.

I know that the camera measures speed over a set distance, how does it take in to account speed limit changes that happen between two cameras.

On the A616 Stocksbridge Bypass as you go past the reservoir the limit is 60 then you pass the camera the limit then changes to 50 and then to 40 before you pass the next camera.

So how does it calculate your average speed.

Andy.

RazerSauber

2,903 posts

89 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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Are you sure they're average speed? Could they be the start of 2 average speed zones?

I suppose even with those changing limits, if you stick to them rigidly then it will still take you a certain amount of time to pass through. They may be able to measure that?

Mandat

4,633 posts

267 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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Meltham Terrier said:
Sorry if this has already been covered elsewhere.

I know that the camera measures speed over a set distance, how does it take in to account speed limit changes that happen between two cameras.

On the A616 Stocksbridge Bypass as you go past the reservoir the limit is 60 then you pass the camera the limit then changes to 50 and then to 40 before you pass the next camera.

So how does it calculate your average speed.

Andy.
My thought is that in this situation, the average speed zone becomes unenforceable, on the basis of which of the limits are your being accused of breaking?

I'd be interested to hear learned views on this as well.

GreatGranny

9,519 posts

255 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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The average speed cameras are only on the 60 limit.

The 50 and 40 cameras are just single stand alone cameras not average speed cameras.

Average speed cameras

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4831508,-1.55934...

40 mph camera

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.4943863,-1.64395...

Another 40 mph camera

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.5007133,-1.67748...

Can't seem to find the 50 mph camera if there is one.

Meltham Terrier

Original Poster:

379 posts

162 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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The photos of the 40mph are old and have been removed the road next now has the style as shown on the 60 mph section.

SamR380

737 posts

149 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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GreatGranny said:
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They've changed since streetview were in town.

I can only guess the 60 cameras are separate. If travelling East-West, after the 60 zone there are two villages with new average cameras, each have one entry and one exit camera. Again, I guess that they work independently.

I'd also be interested in any more info.

GreatGranny

9,519 posts

255 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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Oops sorry.

Drove it a few months ago.
Maybe I noticed but forgot due to old age :-)

Pothole

34,367 posts

311 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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It's not a difficult calculation for a computerised system, is it?

"X distance at 60, Y distance at 50, Z distance at 50...what would the max allowable average speed be over the whole distance?" Perhaps...

surveyor

18,691 posts

213 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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Pothole said:
It's not a difficult calculation for a computerised system, is it?

"X distance at 60, Y distance at 50, Z distance at 50...what would the max allowable average speed be over the whole distance?" Perhaps...
It is for the offence though. Which speed limit was broken and by how much?

Black_S3

2,814 posts

217 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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I didn’t think Specs had approval for variable limits... could easily be wrong though.

Edited by Black_S3 on Tuesday 21st May 12:52

Pothole

34,367 posts

311 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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surveyor said:
Pothole said:
It's not a difficult calculation for a computerised system, is it?

"X distance at 60, Y distance at 50, Z distance at 50...what would the max allowable average speed be over the whole distance?" Perhaps...
It is for the offence though. Which speed limit was broken and by how much?
Interesting point...

speedking31

3,916 posts

165 months

Tuesday 21st May 2019
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surveyor said:
Pothole said:
It's not a difficult calculation for a computerised system, is it?

"X distance at 60, Y distance at 50, Z distance at 50...what would the max allowable average speed be over the whole distance?" Perhaps...
It is for the offence though. Which speed limit was broken and by how much?
The sum is easy, even without a computer wink But it doesn't matter does it? You can do 90 on a motorway, then slow to 50, but a bit too late, to end up with an average of 79 mph. You won't be charged with doing 90.