Blue Badge Abuse
Discussion
ooid said:
Quick question to ph wisdom...
My neighbour has a blue badge. Her family owns 4 cars. (Not to mention they are council tenant, they do not own the house.) So the neighbour's main car has a blue badge, but she keeps this car parked on the usual bays during the day, to reserve for his son's car for evening. In the meantime, me and other residents in the street, suffering from lack of parking spaces.. (no-one in our street has 4 cars really, most of us have only one car each house)
Can we complain about this neighbour? is this called abuse, as using her/her blue badge to reserve usual bay for her family during the day?
By the way, she does not look like she needs a blue-badge at all? quite healthy lady...
Thanks in advance
1. I assume you too are a 'council tenant' &/or irritated or jealous of your 4 car owning neighbour.My neighbour has a blue badge. Her family owns 4 cars. (Not to mention they are council tenant, they do not own the house.) So the neighbour's main car has a blue badge, but she keeps this car parked on the usual bays during the day, to reserve for his son's car for evening. In the meantime, me and other residents in the street, suffering from lack of parking spaces.. (no-one in our street has 4 cars really, most of us have only one car each house)
Can we complain about this neighbour? is this called abuse, as using her/her blue badge to reserve usual bay for her family during the day?
By the way, she does not look like she needs a blue-badge at all? quite healthy lady...
Thanks in advance
2. Do you mean she parks in a disabled bay then vacates it for her sons car? Should that be the case then ( I would assume) her son is guilty of misusing the bay therefore please please report it.
3. There's a fad for a new phrase that is fast becoming a cliché 'a disability is not always obvious', therefore while your suspicions are understandable you are not qualified to judge her level or form of disability.
WJNB said:
1. I assume you too are a 'council tenant' &/or irritated or jealous of your 4 car owning neighbour.
2. Do you mean she parks in a disabled bay then vacates it for her sons car? Should that be the case then ( I would assume) her son is guilty of misusing the bay therefore please please report it.
3. There's a fad for a new phrase that is fast becoming a cliché 'a disability is not always obvious', therefore while your suspicions are understandable you are not qualified to judge her level or form of disability.
1- Nope, I'm not. My point is a "council" or any other tenant, being temporary in wherever you live but somehow occupying more space than the actual freeholders, and reserving bays for their family members.2. Do you mean she parks in a disabled bay then vacates it for her sons car? Should that be the case then ( I would assume) her son is guilty of misusing the bay therefore please please report it.
3. There's a fad for a new phrase that is fast becoming a cliché 'a disability is not always obvious', therefore while your suspicions are understandable you are not qualified to judge her level or form of disability.
2- Nope, she does park in usual normal parking bays. (parking I mean, reserving the parking space for the son), than at night moves to blue badge, disabled bay.
3- Sure but when you see someone, doing loads of physical activities during the day/evening and not using disabled parking during the day, only using them in the evenings (as mentioned previously), than quite fair to raise questions...
ooid said:
Quick question to ph wisdom...
My neighbour has a blue badge. Her family owns 4 cars. (Not to mention they are council tenant, they do not own the house.) So the neighbour's main car has a blue badge, but she keeps this car parked on the usual bays during the day, to reserve for his son's car for evening. In the meantime, me and other residents in the street, suffering from lack of parking spaces.. (no-one in our street has 4 cars really, most of us have only one car each house)
Can we complain about this neighbour? is this called abuse, as using her/her blue badge to reserve usual bay for her family during the day?
By the way, she does not look like she needs a blue-badge at all? quite healthy lady...
My neighbour has a blue badge. Her family owns 4 cars. (Not to mention they are council tenant, they do not own the house.) So the neighbour's main car has a blue badge, but she keeps this car parked on the usual bays during the day, to reserve for his son's car for evening. In the meantime, me and other residents in the street, suffering from lack of parking spaces.. (no-one in our street has 4 cars really, most of us have only one car each house)
Can we complain about this neighbour? is this called abuse, as using her/her blue badge to reserve usual bay for her family during the day?
By the way, she does not look like she needs a blue-badge at all? quite healthy lady...
av185 said:
If you think blue badge abuse is widespread now, wait until virtually every person and their dog manages to get hold of one for even the slightest of issues......
Have you ever tried applying for one? They are extremely difficult to get, and you have to meet very strict criteria.WJNB said:
3. There's a fad for a new phrase that is fast becoming a cliché 'a disability is not always obvious', therefore while your suspicions are understandable you are not qualified to judge her level or form of disability.
Definitely agree with being careful with this one. I saw a documentary called something like "one punch kill" which was all about people killing someone with 1 punch.A guy got into an argument with a guy because he had parked in a disabled bay, didn't think he was disabled, and ended up punching him. The punch killed him.
Turns out the guy wasn't disabled, but was a passenger in a car and had been shopping with his heavily disabled wife.
Full documentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBKcJ3J_fSQ
Tesco Tyson Scene:
https://youtu.be/cBKcJ3J_fSQ?t=1089
Recently had a bad stomach. Rushed into the mens toilets at Tesco, both toilets were in use.
Ran back out, sweat rolling down my face from the anxiety, when I saw the disabled toilet with a sign on the door, 'Not all disabilities can be seen' or something similar.
Damn right, internally I'm producing pure poo milkshake. Ran in and filled the toilet with diorea just in time. I consider myself disabled now and will always use the (more comfortable and usually cleaner) disabled toilet forever
Ran back out, sweat rolling down my face from the anxiety, when I saw the disabled toilet with a sign on the door, 'Not all disabilities can be seen' or something similar.
Damn right, internally I'm producing pure poo milkshake. Ran in and filled the toilet with diorea just in time. I consider myself disabled now and will always use the (more comfortable and usually cleaner) disabled toilet forever
oakdale said:
I think this very much depends on where you live, some local authorities are quite lax but others are very strict on who gets one.
The criteria are set nationally so will not vary between councils (not sure about Scotland though). I am led to believe there is some variation in the independent assessment against the criteria of blue badge applications across the country.Wacky Racer said:
av185 said:
If you think blue badge abuse is widespread now, wait until virtually every person and their dog manages to get hold of one for even the slightest of issues......
Have you ever tried applying for one? They are extremely difficult to get, and you have to meet very strict criteria.I walk with a stick, much slower than before, and while I can do a fair distance, I am susceptible to cramps in the muscles that have been disturbed and general weakness, especially in my ankle, which aches after a while. The main reason I want a badge is that I have to fully open the car door now to get in and out. I need to park my backside in first and then swing my legs round, and the opposite getting out. If anyone is parked too close, it is really hard to squeeze in through the gap. Being able to park in disabled bays would be very handy.
The only thing the blue badge procedure seems interested in is if I get out of breath or not. I explained my reasons, but there is literally nowhere on the form to even enter the information, and the examiner has to run through a scripted check list. Instead I was walked up and down the pavement outside the testing centre, while the examiner walked alongside me, observing me to see if I got out of breath. I explained that I would like to be able to walk fast enough to get out of breath.
Refused.
RipTrip1 said:
Recently had a bad stomach. Rushed into the mens toilets at Tesco, both toilets were in use.
Ran back out, sweat rolling down my face from the anxiety, when I saw the disabled toilet with a sign on the door, 'Not all disabilities can be seen' or something similar.
Damn right, internally I'm producing pure poo milkshake. Ran in and filled the toilet with diorea just in time. I consider myself disabled now and will always use the (more comfortable and usually cleaner) disabled toilet forever
A disabled toilet is a toilet suitably adapted to accommodate disabled people. In general, now, they are not exclusively for the use of people with (visible or not) disabilities. Modern buildings now have gender neutral, and ability neutral toilets, along with baby-changing facilities. In a park in Derbyshire the Gents toilet had a sign ‘Hello grandads, dad’s, and all nappy changers; we are sorry there are no baby-changing facilities in these seventies-designed toilets, if you wish to change a nappy, please go to....’.Ran back out, sweat rolling down my face from the anxiety, when I saw the disabled toilet with a sign on the door, 'Not all disabilities can be seen' or something similar.
Damn right, internally I'm producing pure poo milkshake. Ran in and filled the toilet with diorea just in time. I consider myself disabled now and will always use the (more comfortable and usually cleaner) disabled toilet forever
One the issue of getting a blue-badge, my late mother, in her early nineties, had to jump though hoops (well, that would have been a sight, but..) to get a blue badge. In my/her experience the process was pretty arduous. The walking ability was demanded to be tested, even though she would slump back into her chair several times before she could get up, then a lengthy period of steadying herself before stumbling a few steps and being caught before she fell.
I guess the maths of probability can make it appear everyone is disabled and that you - and only you - are being played for a fool.
I think it is likely the disabled will drive to the easier shopping places like Tesco, Sainsburys etc.
When I do this I do indeed see a few of us parked in the main area and a whole nose to tail line of blue badge holders outside the entrance to the store.
It can therefore appear some are taking the pee as on any given day in Tesco they seem to be a solid and yes, surprisingly large group - also one which is very much in our focal point as we in the cheap seats have to walk past them to get into the store.
But then go to the smaller, harder to access stores and there are not a fraction as many disabled/blue badge holders.
I am sure some are playing the system yes but I doubt the numbers are anywhere near as they can - appear.
I think it is likely the disabled will drive to the easier shopping places like Tesco, Sainsburys etc.
When I do this I do indeed see a few of us parked in the main area and a whole nose to tail line of blue badge holders outside the entrance to the store.
It can therefore appear some are taking the pee as on any given day in Tesco they seem to be a solid and yes, surprisingly large group - also one which is very much in our focal point as we in the cheap seats have to walk past them to get into the store.
But then go to the smaller, harder to access stores and there are not a fraction as many disabled/blue badge holders.
I am sure some are playing the system yes but I doubt the numbers are anywhere near as they can - appear.
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