Change of policy for credit agreement - any lawyers in?
Change of policy for credit agreement - any lawyers in?
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TheBALDpuma

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5,940 posts

197 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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Long story short - we took out £12k of finance on a kitchen, with a 12 month interest free agreement where if you pay everything off in the first 12 months if you pay no interest. The plan was to save as much as we can and pay the rest with a 0% credit card. Then pay that off before the end of the interested free period.

However, 7 months after we took out the finance apparently they changed their policy to not allow you to pay on credit card. They didn't inform us, they said they have only informed people as they rang up to pay by credit card.

So now we're faced with a situation we will end up entering the interest period at 7%, which is going to cost us hundreds of pounds.

Can we fight this with any legal backing to pay by card as originally planned? Or are we up st creek?

BertBert

21,265 posts

240 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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what does the agreement you took out say about credit card payments and what does it say about their right to make changes?
Bert

Cliftonite

8,743 posts

167 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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Apply for a Barclaycard that allows you an interest-free period on a transfer of funds to a current account. Then pay off the initial loan by cheque / debit card. HTH.



Butter Face

34,843 posts

189 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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Cliftonite said:
Apply for a Barclaycard that allows you an interest-free period on a transfer of funds to a current account. Then pay off the initial loan by cheque / debit card. HTH.
This is the way round it. Cash transfer to bank, pay off with ‘cash’

barryrs

5,029 posts

252 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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Does your preferred credit card provider offer a cheque book?

They will most likely charge a handling fee but could solve the problem.

xjay1337

15,966 posts

147 months

Thursday 18th July 2019
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TheBALDpuma said:
Long story short - we took out £12k of finance on a kitchen, with a 12 month interest free agreement where if you pay everything off in the first 12 months if you pay no interest. The plan was to save as much as we can and pay the rest with a 0% credit card. Then pay that off before the end of the interested free period.

However, 7 months after we took out the finance apparently they changed their policy to not allow you to pay on credit card. They didn't inform us, they said they have only informed people as they rang up to pay by credit card.

So now we're faced with a situation we will end up entering the interest period at 7%, which is going to cost us hundreds of pounds.

Can we fight this with any legal backing to pay by card as originally planned? Or are we up st creek?
What was originally on your credit agreement?


TheBALDpuma

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5,940 posts

197 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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It's gives a bunch of options to pay, including credit card. So you just take that as a given that you can pay with credit card? Taking that option off feels wrong, but they are saying because they are still offering other ways to pay they haven't done anything wrong/illegal.

Cards that's you can transfer to your current account do exist, but they all seem to have ~3% fees on the transfer. Obviously this is the option if we can't fight this, but it will mean an extra £300 we don't want to pay if we can avoid it.

Dixy

3,651 posts

234 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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If when you entered in to the contract it said you can pay with a credit card they can not unilaterally move the goal posts.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

185 months

Friday 19th July 2019
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Butter Face said:
Cliftonite said:
Apply for a Barclaycard that allows you an interest-free period on a transfer of funds to a current account. Then pay off the initial loan by cheque / debit card. HTH.
This is the way round it. Cash transfer to bank, pay off with ‘cash’
Just be aware that this will have a negative impact on your credit file.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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Helicopter123 said:
Butter Face said:
Cliftonite said:
Apply for a Barclaycard that allows you an interest-free period on a transfer of funds to a current account. Then pay off the initial loan by cheque / debit card. HTH.
This is the way round it. Cash transfer to bank, pay off with ‘cash’
Just be aware that this will have a negative impact on your credit file.
Why would using the money transfer card for the purpose it's been designed for affect your credit file any worse than just spending on a credit card?

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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+1

Why would it affect your credit rating? If you're being offered it you've been pre-approved for it anyway.

roadsmash

2,667 posts

99 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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TheBALDpuma said:
It's gives a bunch of options to pay, including credit card. So you just take that as a given that you can pay with credit card? Taking that option off feels wrong, but they are saying because they are still offering other ways to pay they haven't done anything wrong/illegal.

Cards that's you can transfer to your current account do exist, but they all seem to have ~3% fees on the transfer. Obviously this is the option if we can't fight this, but it will mean an extra £300 we don't want to pay if we can avoid it.
Have you tried going back to them and informing them that you still have a copy of the original agreement and it clearly states credit card payments are permitted? If not, do so, and speak to a manager.

It does sound unfair I must admit but whether you have any grounds for recourse, I’m not sure.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

185 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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Spumfry said:
Helicopter123 said:
Butter Face said:
Cliftonite said:
Apply for a Barclaycard that allows you an interest-free period on a transfer of funds to a current account. Then pay off the initial loan by cheque / debit card. HTH.
This is the way round it. Cash transfer to bank, pay off with ‘cash’
Just be aware that this will have a negative impact on your credit file.
Why would using the money transfer card for the purpose it's been designed for affect your credit file any worse than just spending on a credit card?
Using a credit card for cash is seen as an indicator of financial distress by the credit rating agencies. I’m not commenting if this is right or wrong, just making the OP aware.

bad company

21,919 posts

295 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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roadsmash said:
Have you tried going back to them and informing them that you still have a copy of the original agreement and it clearly states credit card payments are permitted? If not, do so, and speak to a manager.
This. yes

TheBALDpuma

Original Poster:

5,940 posts

197 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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bad company said:
roadsmash said:
Have you tried going back to them and informing them that you still have a copy of the original agreement and it clearly states credit card payments are permitted? If not, do so, and speak to a manager.
This. yes
This is what we have done. They just said they understand, but all they can offered a 3 month extension to pay the entire balance. Or such it up and pay the interest.

The manager is calling us back within 4 working days (next Tuesday)

If the manager sticks to the same script I'm not sure what the next step is. It isn't worth seeking legal advice because we'll end up spending more than the interest we will incur. And I don't know enough to argue it's legalities.

Jakg

4,041 posts

197 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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Helicopter123 said:
Using a credit card for cash is seen as an indicator of financial distress by the credit rating agencies. I’m not commenting if this is right or wrong, just making the OP aware.
A money transfer is very different to going to a cashpoint.

bad company

21,919 posts

295 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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TheBALDpuma said:
bad company said:
roadsmash said:
Have you tried going back to them and informing them that you still have a copy of the original agreement and it clearly states credit card payments are permitted? If not, do so, and speak to a manager.
This. yes
This is what we have done. They just said they understand, but all they can offered a 3 month extension to pay the entire balance. Or such it up and pay the interest.

The manager is calling us back within 4 working days (next Tuesday)

If the manager sticks to the same script I'm not sure what the next step is. It isn't worth seeking legal advice because we'll end up spending more than the interest we will incur. And I don't know enough to argue it's legalities.
Sounds like there credit card facility has been withdrawn. I’d ask for a longer extension to allow you to pay it off without incurring interest charges. That’d put you in the position you would have been.

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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Helicopter123 said:
Using a credit card for cash is seen as an indicator of financial distress by the credit rating agencies. I’m not commenting if this is right or wrong, just making the OP aware.
Are you basing this on any kind of knowledge or experience or is it your gut feeling?

xjay1337

15,966 posts

147 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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TheBALDpuma said:
It's gives a bunch of options to pay, including credit card. So you just take that as a given that you can pay with credit card? Taking that option off feels wrong, but they are saying because they are still offering other ways to pay they haven't done anything wrong/illegal.

Cards that's you can transfer to your current account do exist, but they all seem to have ~3% fees on the transfer. Obviously this is the option if we can't fight this, but it will mean an extra £300 we don't want to pay if we can avoid it.
They cannot not accept credit card payments then.

ElectricPics

761 posts

110 months

Saturday 20th July 2019
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Durzel said:
Helicopter123 said:
Using a credit card for cash is seen as an indicator of financial distress by the credit rating agencies. I’m not commenting if this is right or wrong, just making the OP aware.
Are you basing this on any kind of knowledge or experience or is it your gut feeling?
Credit Card cash withdrawals do leave an imprint on credit files and while they don't directly affect your score, they can be seen and in combination with a credit utilisation of over 30% it will affect it.