WPC being subjected to an "internal investigation" !!!

[poo at Paul's]

....in every sense of the words!!!

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/met-police-o...

Beggars belief that these sort of people are held up as role models within our Police.

[anonymous-user]

Read that this morning. She asked for time off for the show, they said no, she did it anyway, there will be an investigation, she'll play the race card, she'll get promoted. Job done.

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 13th August 10:40

[HantsRat]

Unless the holiday / unpaid leave request was denied and she went any, what's the issue?

Woman goes on holiday and has sex. Why does holding a certain job mean she can't do that?

[vonhosen]

HantsRat said:

Unless the holiday / unpaid leave request was denied and she went any, what's the issue?

Woman goes on holiday and has sex. Why does holding a certain job mean she can't do that?

She applied for & was granted unpaid leave for other reasons, applied for permission to appear on the show & was refused.

[HantsRat]

Just read that she was indeed granted time off without pay so no issue there. She asked about going on the show and they said no but she went on anyway.

IMO you can do what you like in your own time. Unless she was shouting about being a Met Police officer on the show and using this to her gain, I can't see the issue. Do you need to get permission from the force to tell a bar owner on holiday you're a Police officer?

[anonymous-user]

Well that’s an unusual one. Although that type of show is fine for an MP.

Sounds like she’s more interesting in pursuing “fame” than being a police officer.

[Bill]

HantsRat said:

Do you need to get permission from the force to tell a bar owner on holiday you're a Police officer?

I can see the argument that getting yourself into the papers wouldn't be a great career move. And doing so after explicitly being denied permission to do so is going to get her into bother. But otherwise it's just prurient gossip.

Presumably her judgement hadn't been called into question previously so I'm not sure how the Met were meant to know she was one of "those kinds of people" (Whatever that means?) in advance.

[poo at Paul's]

Well she is being "advertised" as a Met police officer from London and is reportedly getting nailed by the big bamboo on (live?) tv. Some would think this may be seen as "bringing the force into disrepute" or even frown upon the fact she lied about her actual reason for taking leave, (at the end of the day these are public servants, paid or unpaid, we've paid to train them to do a job etc and not take unpaid leave to go on Big Brother.)

Amazing that some people seem to think this is in any way OK?
What other extra curricular activities are officers ok to do on their own time? Gambling? Make porno videos? run their own business? I am sure there plenty of legal things that police officers are not allowed to do per their contracts?

[surveyor_101]

HantsRat said:

Unless the holiday / unpaid leave request was denied and she went any, what's the issue?

Woman goes on holiday and has sex. Why does holding a certain job mean she can't do that?

There are standards in the office of constable such as not bringing the service into disrepute, by going on a TV show and displaying certain behaviours (ie sex on tv) it may be argued she has failed to met the standards expected in public office.

Also I am not sure how she blagged the leave to go on that as its normally more than a 4 weeks I assume.

[boyse7en]

So what is the problem?

Far as i can see there are a few things the article is conflating to make it sound sensational

The only issue i can see would be that she may have lied about the reason she wanted unpaid leave. The rest of it is of no consequence to her role or ability to be a policewomen, and frankly smacks of double standards.

[poo at Paul's]

boyse7en said:

So what is the problem?

Far as i can see there are a few things the article is conflating to make it sound sensational

The only issue i can see would be that she may have lied about the reason she wanted unpaid leave. The rest of it is of no consequence to her role or ability to be a policewomen, and frankly smacks of double standards.

Professional standards? ?
1) she lied (professional much?)
2) why did she lie, because telling the truth did not get her what she wanted? Hardly a trait to encourage in our Police!!
3) Why did it not get her what she wanted.? Because it is a frivolous and some may say seedy event she wished to partake in, and not the sort of thing Met wants it's poster girls to be involved in. Oh, and it could affect her ability to do the job, people acting up when she is trying to deal with them, taking the proverbial, even becoming a target for pisstaking etc by the MOPs.

[anonymous-user]

boyse7en said:

So what is the problem?

Far as i can see there are a few things the article is conflating to make it sound sensational

The only issue i can see would be that she may have lied about the reason she wanted unpaid leave. The rest of it is of no consequence to her role or ability to be a policewomen, and frankly smacks of double standards.

Regardless of anything else, if that's the case, that's the issue here.

Dishonestly is not looked at too favorably.

[Bigends]

poo at Paul's said:

boyse7en said:

So what is the problem?

Far as i can see there are a few things the article is conflating to make it sound sensational

The only issue i can see would be that she may have lied about the reason she wanted unpaid leave. The rest of it is of no consequence to her role or ability to be a policewomen, and frankly smacks of double standards.

Professional standards? ?
1) she lied (professional much?)
2) why did she lie, because telling the truth did not get her what she wanted? Hardly a trait to encourage in our Police!!
3) Why did it not get her what she wanted.? Because it is a frivolous and some may say seedy event she wished to partake in, and not the sort of thing Met wants it's poster girls to be involved in. Oh, and it could affect her ability to do the job, people acting up when she is trying to deal with them, taking the proverbial, even becoming a target for pisstaking etc by the MOPs.

Code of ethics states -

1. Honesty and integrity
I will be honest and act with integrity at all times,
and will not compromise or abuse my position.

[sgtBerbatov]

poo at Paul's said:

boyse7en said:

So what is the problem?

Far as i can see there are a few things the article is conflating to make it sound sensational

The only issue i can see would be that she may have lied about the reason she wanted unpaid leave. The rest of it is of no consequence to her role or ability to be a policewomen, and frankly smacks of double standards.

Professional standards? ?
1) she lied (professional much?)
2) why did she lie, because telling the truth did not get her what she wanted? Hardly a trait to encourage in our Police!!
3) Why did it not get her what she wanted.? Because it is a frivolous and some may say seedy event she wished to partake in, and not the sort of thing Met wants it's poster girls to be involved in. Oh, and it could affect her ability to do the job, people acting up when she is trying to deal with them, taking the proverbial, even becoming a target for pisstaking etc by the MOPs.

Yet there are serving members and retired officers of West Midlands and South Yorkshire Police who willingly lied over Hillsborough etc who are walking free.

"Professional standards" my hole.

[HantsRat]

poo at Paul's said:

(at the end of the day these are public servants, paid or unpaid, we've paid to train them to do a job etc and not take unpaid leave to go on Big Brother.)

What a ridiculous comment. Just because someone is a Police officer doesn't mean they can't take unpaid leave or a career break. Are you saying a Police officer should not be allowed a year off unpaid if they wanted to go travelling?

[anonymous-user]

sgtBerbatov said:

poo at Paul's said:

boyse7en said:

So what is the problem?

Far as i can see there are a few things the article is conflating to make it sound sensational

The only issue i can see would be that she may have lied about the reason she wanted unpaid leave. The rest of it is of no consequence to her role or ability to be a policewomen, and frankly smacks of double standards.

Professional standards? ?
1) she lied (professional much?)
2) why did she lie, because telling the truth did not get her what she wanted? Hardly a trait to encourage in our Police!!
3) Why did it not get her what she wanted.? Because it is a frivolous and some may say seedy event she wished to partake in, and not the sort of thing Met wants it's poster girls to be involved in. Oh, and it could affect her ability to do the job, people acting up when she is trying to deal with them, taking the proverbial, even becoming a target for pisstaking etc by the MOPs.

Yet there are serving members and retired officers of West Midlands and South Yorkshire Police who willingly lied over Hillsborough etc who are walking free.

"Professional standards" my hole.

Those matters are still being investigated. They can't be concluded until criminal matters have been concluded.

The Met's PSD doesn't have much to do with either of those forces.

IIRC the potential misconduct is being undertaken by the IPOC as an independent investigation so the PSDs are irrelevant.

[mygoldfishbowl]

But did she feel empowered.

[The Surveyor]

mygoldfishbowl said:

But did she feel empowered.

If 'empowered' is just another word for unemployed, then yes.

[Cold]

mygoldfishbowl said:

But did she feel empowered.

Strange name.

[Roger Irrelevant]

poo at Paul's said:

....in every sense of the words!!!

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/met-police-o...

Beggars belief that these sort of people are held up as role models within our Police.

Unless I'm missing something she's not being held up as a role model at all though is she? In fact quite the opposite - she'll face an investigation and could well face disciplinary proceedings. So take away the Mary Whitehouse angle and what you've got is somebody lying about the reason they want some unpaid leave. Not great but I'm not convinced it shows a police force rotten to the core either.