48mph in a 40 zone
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F10RRSVR

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43 posts

123 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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Hello

I have been caught at 48mph in a 40 zone

What will they throw at me? The book?

I'm hoping to do a SAC since this is my first incident since I started driving 7 years ago

Am I in the threshold for the course?

agtlaw

7,403 posts

235 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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F10RRSVR said:
Am I in the threshold for the course?
Yes.

Pica-Pica

16,588 posts

113 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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agtlaw said:
F10RRSVR said:
Am I in the threshold for the course?
Yes.
Just hope you are not in one of those insurance companies that require you to declare the SAC. Most don’t require that, but there a few that do.

martinbiz

3,699 posts

174 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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I have often wondered how any insurance company could know if you had done one or not, not sure there is any possible legal route for them to collect that information

BertBert

21,265 posts

240 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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Pica-Pica said:
Just hope you are not in one of those insurance companies that require you to declare the SAC. Most don’t require that, but there a few that do.
I believe there was just Admiral (and perhaps others in that group). They no longer require you to declare SACs. They've stopped asking.
Bert

LosingGrip

8,858 posts

188 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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martinbiz said:
I have often wondered how any insurance company could know if you had done one or not, not sure there is any possible legal route for them to collect that information
There isn't, but will need to declare it still if asked (insurance fraud otherwise).

bad company

21,919 posts

295 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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LosingGrip said:
martinbiz said:
I have often wondered how any insurance company could know if you had done one or not, not sure there is any possible legal route for them to collect that information
There isn't, but will need to declare it still if asked (insurance fraud otherwise).
You only need to declare the course on renewal. That’s the time to insure elsewhere.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,062 posts

179 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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martinbiz said:
I have often wondered how any insurance company could know if you had done one or not, not sure there is any possible legal route for them to collect that information
You will tell them when you have a claim. That's the trouble with lying, you need to recall what lies you told a long time later when you make a claim and they ask you.

martinbiz

3,699 posts

174 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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BertBert said:
Pica-Pica said:
Just hope you are not in one of those insurance companies that require you to declare the SAC. Most don’t require that, but there a few that do.
I believe there was just Admiral (and perhaps others in that group). They no longer require you to declare SACs. They've stopped asking.
Bert
Thats kind of my point, I'm not debating the rights or wrongs, we all know what is the correct thing to do. Checking on convictions, accidents etc is readily available information for them, sac's not so, maybe why they are starting not to ask anymore.

Edited by martinbiz on Tuesday 24th September 22:26

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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martinbiz said:
I have often wondered how any insurance company could know if you had done one or not, not sure there is any possible legal route for them to collect that information
Ah the great leach scam. Sitting a SAC actually makes you a better driver, so I would tell the insurance company, as in 99.9% of all cases absolutely nothing. A disgusting bunch of robbing ball bags who are about as moral as an unmoral thing.

bad company

21,919 posts

295 months

Tuesday 24th September 2019
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yonex said:
Ah the great leach scam. Sitting a SAC actually makes you a better driver, so I would tell the insurance company, as in 99.9% of all cases absolutely nothing. A disgusting bunch of robbing ball bags who are about as moral as an unmoral thing.
So lying to the insurance company or withholding information is moral?

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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bad company said:
So lying to the insurance company or withholding information is moral?
Change companies, says everything that an insurance agency would penalise a driver for a SAC. Bottom feeders.

faa77

1,728 posts

100 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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martinbiz said:
Checking on convictions, accidents etc is readily available information for them
Don't GDPR and Data Protection Act prevent this?

A private company cannot just go and trawl through your criminal record

parabolica

7,010 posts

213 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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faa77 said:
martinbiz said:
Checking on convictions, accidents etc is readily available information for them
Don't GDPR and Data Protection Act prevent this?

A private company cannot just go and trawl through your criminal record
If it's for a legitimate purpose they can, and the insurance quotes will often have you tick the T&C box that will include your consent for them to carry out required background checks to validate the information you are giving them. GDPR doesn't mean all your information is private and not available to anyone, it's about how it is stored and controlled.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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So can insurance companies find out if you’ve attended a SAC?

cheesesliceking

1,577 posts

269 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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yonex said:
So can insurance companies find out if you’ve attended a SAC?
On the one i attended i was told no, they cannot.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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Exactly what I was told. Therefore, say nothing and if you’re using that pile of ste Admiral, change at renewal

TwigtheWonderkid

49,062 posts

179 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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If the company that charge you extra for an SAC still come out lower than a company that doesn't, should you still change?

TwigtheWonderkid

49,062 posts

179 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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yonex said:
Change companies, says everything that an insurance agency would penalise a driver for a SAC. Bottom feeders.
Exactly how does an insurance agency charge for an SAC? I thought Insurers set the rate, the agency or broker, if you use one, has no input into that decision?

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 26th September 2019
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Exactly how does an insurance agency charge for an SAC? I thought Insurers set the rate, the agency or broker, if you use one, has no input into that decision?
Why would a company ask, it’s pretty obvious it’ll count against you, unless hell has frozen over and they’re sending out congratulatory cards biggrin