Robbed in France
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jules_s

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5,259 posts

262 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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Short version

Our hotel room got broken into last week in Paris. and various items removed.

I'm looking at suing the Hotel for negligence as it very much looks like a lack of diligence on their part. I wont go into details but clearly there are aspects which are unacceptable

Preferably I need a French/Parisian solicitor to formulate a claim against the hotel - or perhaps a UK practice that's comfortable dealing with the French (in French presumably and knows the legal side of this) does anybody have any suggestions?

TIA


Lindun

1,965 posts

91 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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Why not claim on your travel insurance?

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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You've been stolen from, not robbed. As the other poster says claim from your travel insurance. And speak to the police if you haven't done already.

roadsmash

2,667 posts

99 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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flashbang said:
You've been stolen from, not robbed. As the other poster says claim from your travel insurance. And speak to the police if you haven't done already.
If you’re splitting hairs the OP has actually had his hotel room burgled.

jules_s

Original Poster:

5,259 posts

262 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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Jesus :lol: PistonHeads heh?


hondafanatic

4,969 posts

230 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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jules_s said:
Jesus :lol: PistonHeads heh?
Just waiting for the ‘Brexit’ angle and some racial profiling. Lovely place...when it was just fields full of broken TVRs hehe

You can add this post to the ‘unhelpful’ pile too.

O...and the nosey pile...what was taken? Hopefully not passports?

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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roadsmash said:
If you’re splitting hairs the OP has actually had his hotel room burgled.
Which still doesn't sound as bad as being robbed.

abzmike

11,990 posts

135 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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OP - have the police completed thier investigation and established the negligence of the hotel was the cause? I wouldn’t expect to get very far without that.

carreauchompeur

18,321 posts

233 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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Claim, move on.

jules_s

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262 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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abzmike said:
OP - have the police completed thier investigation and established the negligence of the hotel was the cause? I wouldn’t expect to get very far without that.
The Police were called and they attended almost immediately - the room was then fingerprinted etc. Later four armed police eek attended and 'interviewed' myself and my fiancee.

I attended the Local police station the day after to lodge a 'complaint' - took the best part of a day.

I've taken some advice and the result is the request here. I won't go into the specific reasoning here (obviously) but my understanding is that under French Law the hotel is liable (given the circumstances) but I need further advice on that - again why I posted the thread

Robbed, burgled or stolen from? I don't mind or care which is the best description laugh I wasn't looking for any shock value



Abbott

2,864 posts

232 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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I would say that if you did not report it to the police and get a police report you will not get very far with anything in France.

DoubleSix

12,540 posts

205 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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Abbott said:
I would say that if you did not report it to the police and get a police report you will not get very far with anything in France.
But the Police were armed!!!

jules_s

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262 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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Abbott said:
I would say that if you did not report it to the police and get a police report you will not get very far with anything in France.
I did and have all the paperwork necessary I believe. It's also not the first time this establishment has suffered this sort of 'unfortunate' incident IYKWIM

ThorB

6,807 posts

208 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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jules_s said:
but my understanding is that under French Law the hotel is liable (given the circumstances)
Then that's for your insurance company to chase. Make a claim and let them deal with it.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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It is emotive for you but just claim off insurance, objects can be replaced.


poo at Paul's

14,611 posts

204 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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Is it an inside job, ie maid service / leaving door / room unattended or do you think just hotel reception letting smelly scrotes know when the Ros Beef is out and about?

Is it worth just claiming on travel insurance etc, then just slag the hotel off on trip advisor facebook etc. Seems a lot of trouble to go to unless you've had some serious st nicked.
French legal system is pretty lengthy, does protect the consumer very well, but some cases take years and years. I know a chap who bought an Audi auto with gbox issues and took the garage to court, won, court seized the car, garage ordered to repay, went bust, did not pay and the Audi has sat for over 7 years now in an underground CP in paris whilst chap is now chasing the garage owner personally. Madness for what was less than €10k car with a €1500 gbox ecu issue!

Cold

16,703 posts

119 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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Which staff member do you think it was?

Marcellus

7,204 posts

248 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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DoubleSix said:
Abbott said:
I would say that if you did not report it to the police and get a police report you will not get very far with anything in France.
But the Police were armed!!!
Most of them are!

egor110

17,675 posts

232 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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jules_s said:
The Police were called and they attended almost immediately - the room was then fingerprinted etc. Later four armed police eek attended and 'interviewed' myself and my fiancee.

I attended the Local police station the day after to lodge a 'complaint' - took the best part of a day.

I've taken some advice and the result is the request here. I won't go into the specific reasoning here (obviously) but my understanding is that under French Law the hotel is liable (given the circumstances) but I need further advice on that - again why I posted the thread

Robbed, burgled or stolen from? I don't mind or care which is the best description laugh I wasn't looking for any shock value
Why mention the armed police ?

All the national police and gendarmerie are armed .

Abbott

2,864 posts

232 months

Wednesday 25th September 2019
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What area was your hotel in? Was it a dodgy area?