Missed small claim court
Missed small claim court
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wjwren

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4,484 posts

164 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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I was due at the small claims court this morning. My wife is heavily pregnant and had pains this morning. But long story short we missed the hearing. We dont know the outcome of the judgment yet as I called the court and was advised they would post it. Can I appeal or write in to the court regarding the circumstances? Pissed off as I think I had a water tight case.

ncjones

311 posts

244 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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Ring the court and they'll be able to advise you. You used to be able to submit an application to the judge (then it was ca a. £20 fee).... in this case you could state the circumstances and ask for it to be reheard. Worth checking the outcome of today first though!

KungFuPanda

4,640 posts

199 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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Did you try and contact the Court prior to the hearing taking place to advise you wouldn’t be attending?

wjwren

Original Poster:

4,484 posts

164 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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The hearing was at 10am. I called the court at 9.50 when I knew I would be late. I didn't get through till 10.20. There were 37 people in the queue on the phone. When I got through they advised it had already been heard.

mattyprice4004

1,342 posts

203 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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Surely you knew you wouldn’t be attending more than 10 minutes ahead of time?

I don’t think that’ll go in your favour

CRA1G

7,244 posts

224 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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I don't know if you can appeal,but a few years ago I had to take someone to small claims for none payment and he didn't turn up so I automatically got judgement against him.

TVR1

5,478 posts

254 months

Monday 4th November 2019
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Really depends if you’re the plaintiff or defendant and worth the hassle to you. Either way you're pretty much on a hiding to nothing, you could try to have the Judgement set aside by applying with form N244 cost is £250. Its not really designed for people who just fail to show but depends on your circumstances and if the Maj is feeling generous.if you're the defendant, congrats you now have a CCJ but it will be removed from the register if you cough up within 30 days.

AlexRS2782

8,515 posts

242 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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TVR1 said:
Really depends if you’re the plaintiff or defendant and worth the hassle to you. Either way you're pretty much on a hiding to nothing, you could try to have the Judgement set aside by applying with form N244 cost is £250. Its not really designed for people who just fail to show but depends on your circumstances and if the Maj is feeling generous.if you're the defendant, congrats you now have a CCJ but it will be removed from the register if you cough up within 30 days.
Rough guess suggests it's possibly this - https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... - as there's mention of a November court date in the OP.

KungFuPanda

4,640 posts

199 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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If that’s the case, just pay the judgment fee. It’s not worth paying circa £250 to apply to set aside the judgment which may not be successful to then go to a finally hearing on liability which again may not by successful.

Meoricin

2,880 posts

198 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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KungFuPanda said:
If that’s the case, just pay the judgment fee. It’s not worth paying circa £250 to apply to set aside the judgment which may not be successful to then go to a finally hearing on liability which again may not by successful.
This. It's far too common to see Defendants floundering in front of a Judge, trying to explain why they've brought everyone back for a second hearing because they didn't show for the first one.

Sometimes the Judge will take pity, but just as often you'll end up paying your application cost (£255) as well as the costs of attendance for the Claimant, and you'll walk out with that Judgment still sitting there and still needing to be paid if you don't want it sitting on your credit file for 6 years.

babelfish

1,020 posts

236 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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mattyprice4004 said:
Surely you knew you wouldn’t be attending more than 10 minutes ahead of time?

I don’t think that’ll go in your favour
Maybe dealing with the emergency was a higher priority than phoning?

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

289 months

Tuesday 5th November 2019
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TVR1 said:
Really depends if you’re the plaintiff or defendant and worth the hassle to you. Either way you're pretty much on a hiding to nothing, you could try to have the Judgement set aside by applying with form N244 cost is £250. Its not really designed for people who just fail to show but depends on your circumstances and if the Maj is feeling generous.if you're the defendant, congrats you now have a CCJ but it will be removed from the register if you cough up within 30 days.
If it's County Ct what's a magistrate got to do with it?

CRA1G

7,244 posts

224 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Boosted LS1 said:
If it's County Ct what's a magistrate got to do with it?
Small claims are administered by magistrates in court...

The Mad Monk

11,476 posts

146 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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wjwren said:
The hearing was at 10am. I called the court at 9.50 when I knew I would be late. I didn't get through till 10.20. There were 37 people in the queue on the phone. When I got through they advised it had already been heard.
What happened?

bladebloke

396 posts

224 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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CRA1G said:
Small claims are administered by magistrates in court...
No, they are not.

CRA1G

7,244 posts

224 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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bladebloke said:
CRA1G said:
Small claims are administered by magistrates in court...
No, they are not.
I have always believed small claims courts are presided over by magistrates and this has been my experience of them.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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A magistrate is not trained in law, they have an advisor who directs them. Considering the county court has one person presiding, then it couldn't be a magistrate. It is a judge or similar qualified person.

hutchst

3,727 posts

125 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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What we used to know as a Stipendiary Magistrate is now a District Judge (since 2000). That may be where the confusion arises. They are legally qualified and hear cases in the County Court.

wjwren

Original Poster:

4,484 posts

164 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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Just to confirm, if it makes any difference, it was the small claims "fast track" service

The Mad Monk

11,476 posts

146 months

Wednesday 6th November 2019
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wjwren said:
Just to confirm, if it makes any difference, it was the small claims "fast track" service
Have you told us what happened?