Writing a will when there are no dependants
Writing a will when there are no dependants
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Robbo 27

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4,287 posts

128 months

Wednesday 15th January 2020
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Discussion at the pub. One bloke said he had no one left, no relatives at all apart from distant cousins. He wants to know that if he writes a will using a local solicitor, how would the solicitor know that he has died?

He aslo doesnt know how someone would register his death, there isnt anyone.


Any ideas?


CrayonPark

467 posts

100 months

Wednesday 15th January 2020
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Robbo 27 said:
Discussion at the pub. One bloke said he had no one left, no relatives at all apart from distant cousins. He wants to know that if he writes a will using a local solicitor, how would the solicitor know that he has died?

He aslo doesnt know how someone would register his death, there isnt anyone.


Any ideas?
Google allow you to set up a dead man’s switch. You can alert contacts via email if your account isn’t accessed after a certain time period, and give them access to email/documents etc.

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

260 months

Wednesday 15th January 2020
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Linky to the Google thing please. Was pondering writing something similar, but no need now.

CrayonPark

467 posts

100 months

Wednesday 15th January 2020
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randlemarcus said:
Linky to the Google thing please. Was pondering writing something similar, but no need now.
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/3036546...

xx99xx

3,006 posts

102 months

Wednesday 15th January 2020
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CrayonPark said:
Robbo 27 said:
Discussion at the pub. One bloke said he had no one left, no relatives at all apart from distant cousins. He wants to know that if he writes a will using a local solicitor, how would the solicitor know that he has died?

He aslo doesnt know how someone would register his death, there isnt anyone.


Any ideas?
Google allow you to set up a dead man’s switch. You can alert contacts via email if your account isn’t accessed after a certain time period, and give them access to email/documents etc.
So not quite a confirmation to a solicitor that you've died. Just that you've stopped using Google services. Fairly sure a solicitor would ignore such a message anyway.

Genuinely interested in this topic though as have wondered how solicitors are notified of deaths. More so, how would a next of kin (where there is one) know who the correct solicitor to contact is. And what happens if the solicitor is no longer in business when someone dies?

Nigel_O

3,851 posts

248 months

Wednesday 15th January 2020
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The firm of solicitors that helps write the will doesn’t have to be involved in the execution of the will

Once the will is written, it is a standalone legal document - the task for someone with no dependents is to ensure that the will is known about on death

rdjohn

7,170 posts

224 months

Wednesday 15th January 2020
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We are in the same position. Our key objective was to pass on our estate to 3-charities. Cancer Research UK offer a free service with a panel of Solicitors. We have an Executor, but the solicitor will do that as well.

Somehow - don’t care how - the charities tend to know what is coming to them.

Chromegrill

1,140 posts

115 months

Wednesday 15th January 2020
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https://www.nationalwillregister.co.uk/

Allows people to search for existence of a will after someone has died. No need to worry about not having a close relative for the death to be registered - someone present at the time of death, someone living in the same house or even someone from the hospital if he dies there can do so.

Robbo 27

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4,287 posts

128 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Thanks all, really appreciated.


I understand that there is a TV series called Heir Hunters who, for a commission, seek out some distant relatives where there is no obvious next of kin and no will. The money can go to some cousins who have never heard of the deceased.


Being 'last of the line' myself I am concerned also, I can just imagine some neighbour saying 'havent seen Rob for 6 months although his bathroom light has been on all that time!'.

This would be followed by relatives I have never met breaking into the house and helping themselves

IJWS15

2,220 posts

114 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Sound like the OP's situation is the one where you do need a will to ensure that the local guinea pig refuge (or other charity of your choice) gets the money instead of some distant relative you have never heard of and wouldn't like.

Drawweight

3,596 posts

145 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Chromegrill said:
https://www.nationalwillregister.co.uk/

Allows people to search for existence of a will after someone has died. No need to worry about not having a close relative for the death to be registered - someone present at the time of death, someone living in the same house or even someone from the hospital if he dies there can do so.
My FIL is in a home and unlikely to last much longer. It’s not known where the will is but probably with one of the local solicitors.

Is using that website the best way to go about it. It was probably written several decades ago...is it likely to be on that register?

Robbo 27

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4,287 posts

128 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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I have known a situation where a family went into a deceased persons home, they were the children and brothers and sisters of the deceased and divided up what they wanted and argued about some of the more expensive items, it was a large house and had high value contents. I heard it was a bit of a bun fight with much falling out after the event.

They didnt particularly care whether there was a will or not. Had a will come to light I dont know how any true beneficiary would have sorted out what was actually theirs by right.

All sounds a bit of a nightmare.




rdjohn

7,170 posts

224 months

Thursday 16th January 2020
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Where there is a Will - there is a relative.

My wife’s aunty and was dying from Cancer. One week before the aunt’s death, my wife’s father died very unexpectedly.

A new will was suddenly discovered that excluded my wife’s father and heirs as a beneficiaries. it was a significant estate.

The lawyer that wrote the new Will was later sent to prison for a similar fraudulent offence.

As for the relatives, hopefully, “what goes around, comes around.”