Signed new Car lease but no car available
Signed new Car lease but no car available
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bigrj141

Original Poster:

119 posts

226 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Afternoon all

Hopefully someone can help me with my current situation regarding a new car lease deal.

At the start of Jan 2020 I agreed a new car lease with a reputable online broker.
I signed all the paper work, passed financial check, paid the processing fee and chose the colour, (I had a choice of 3, Metallic black, grey or metallic white).
Everything rushed through as it was a limited deal. All done within a few hours and I’m told the car is now secured for me and I can expect delivery first week of march 2020.

I sent them an email this morning asking if they had a more precise delivery date, A few hours later I get a call to say they do not have a car for me.
"Unsure why but BMW do not have one", is what I have been told.

Where do I stand in a situation like this?

Any advice would be welcome – Many Thanks


Edited by bigrj141 on Thursday 30th January 14:20

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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The obvious answer is read the small print in the agreement. I suspect they do not have to supply you with that car in that colour if there are none available.

Pegscratch

1,872 posts

137 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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At the bus stop.

Serious question time: what do you want? If they have a different colour, do you want that?

bigrj141

Original Poster:

119 posts

226 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Sorry its not about them not having the colour - Its them not having the car available in any colour.

Don't judge it was a practical car spin
BMW 2 series Gran Tourer - M Sport

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Ok. So there are no cars of any colour available anywhere in the UK? Have they told when there will be? If so, are they happy to honour the deal? Have you contacted your local BMW dealer and asked about lead time for that car? What do you want the outcome to be?

Pegscratch

1,872 posts

137 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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See if they can get you a decent rate on something else you like. Failing that tell them if they can't deliver what you signed up for, you expect every penny back. Move on with life.

bigrj141

Original Poster:

119 posts

226 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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I think it all boils down to the advertised price back in Jan.

I got the lease price very low compared to what it would be today. But it was a genuine deal.

bigrj141

Original Poster:

119 posts

226 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Tyre Smoke said:
Ok. So there are no cars of any colour available anywhere in the UK? Have they told when there will be? If so, are they happy to honour the deal? Have you contacted your local BMW dealer and asked about lead time for that car? What do you want the outcome to be?
Ideal Outcome is to get the deal I signed up for.
If the tables were turned and I wanted out the lease I'm sure there are penalties for breaking a contact.

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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I'm sure there would. That is why you need to read the small print.

I guess they had a load of these 'available' and now they've all been snapped up.

bigrj141

Original Poster:

119 posts

226 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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I've gone through the T's & C's and I can not see anything that's gets them out of the contract in this situation.

Not sure if a can add a link to the sites terms and conditions without up upsetting the pistonheads

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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So how has it been left?

Sorry, but we have no car for you, here's your money back? Or more likely, sorry we have no car for you, what else would you like?

Mark V GTD

3,159 posts

153 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Sounds like they messed up - this was a stupidly low cost deal with a lot of people trying for it - I think it was well under £5k over 2 years.

Likely they have just been told by their supplying dealer they were never allocated one.

I would help if you could provide a bit more context re the communications as you have only quoted (part) of one line of their response.

This is the reason I avoid brokers for leases and go direct to the dealers fleet dept - just too many links in the chain (manufacturer, main dealer, broker and finally you).

bigrj141

Original Poster:

119 posts

226 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Mark V GTD said:
Sounds like they messed up - this was a stupidly low cost deal with a lot of people trying for it - I think it was well under £5k over 2 years.

Likely they have just been told by their supplying dealer they were never allocated one.

I would help if you could provide a bit more context re the communications as you have only quoted (part) of one line of their response.

This is the reason I avoid brokers for leases and go direct to the dealers fleet dept - just too many links in the chain (manufacturer, main dealer, broker and finally you).
Broker has said they can no longer get me the agreed car from BMW. When pushed for more info I was told that they do not yet know what has happened and they need to go away and look into it.
They offered to try and find me an alternative car, not a BMW 2GT. no discussion on pricing of alternative cars yet.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

208 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Seriously they have done you a favor the m-sport looks nice but the suspension is hard a crashy for such a big PPL carrier.

Best off with a sport or nicely spec SE/lux.

Ask for your cash back, go to BMW dealer and get a deal and you can even have the m-sport if looks over ride are really that much of a deal breaker.

What lump did you go for?

I would take the VW Tiguan all space when Iooked to change my mazda.

Fast Bug

13,564 posts

190 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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As has already been said, the dealer had a batch of vehicles with additional support for the funder. This deal has gone live to brokers on a first come first served basis and your broker hasn't managed to grab one for you in time.

bigrj141

Original Poster:

119 posts

226 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Fast Bug said:
As has already been said, the dealer had a batch of vehicles with additional support for the funder. This deal has gone live to brokers on a first come first served basis and your broker hasn't managed to grab one for you in time.
Even though I had been told they did get me one. One of the first apparently

Fast Bug

13,564 posts

190 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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bigrj141 said:
Fast Bug said:
As has already been said, the dealer had a batch of vehicles with additional support for the funder. This deal has gone live to brokers on a first come first served basis and your broker hasn't managed to grab one for you in time.
Even though I had been told they did get me one. One of the first apparently
Then where is the car? I work in fleet sales and know how quickly vehicles can go and have had to tell brokers there are no vehicles left when orders are submitted. It's even worse if you're doing the finance via the manufacturer and you run out of vehicles and have people going through underwriting at that time

Pegscratch

1,872 posts

137 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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It sounds like you just want to complain to someone on here, as by the sounds of it you know you're not getting a car.

imdeman87

945 posts

136 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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In this order:

Get the admin fee refunded back to you.

Tell them in a polite way that you're not happy with the situation because you were told a car had been secured. Also credit check undertaken which has left an imprint on your credit report. You may get a positive response back, but highly unlikely.

Move on and don't use that online broker again.

Find another good car lease deal.

bigrj141

Original Poster:

119 posts

226 months

Thursday 30th January 2020
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Fast Bug said:
Then where is the car? I work in fleet sales and know how quickly vehicles can go and have had to tell brokers there are no vehicles left when orders are submitted. It's even worse if you're doing the finance via the manufacturer and you run out of vehicles and have people going through underwriting at that time
There is no car. Turns out someone dropped the ball at the leasing company and didn't send the finalised paperwork to BMW.
The are going to see what deals they can offer me at "cost"

The deal was good - £168.50pcm ( tinted glass and metallic paint as cars already in pipeline) £1100 down. 8k miles 2 years deal. so about 16% of the retail price