Knowingly spreading COVID-19?
Knowingly spreading COVID-19?
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ReverendCounter

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6,087 posts

205 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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I had a conversation very recently with someone who was stifling coughs, looked pale and was complaining of being too hot, yet had put on a good amount of layers including a jumper under a heavy coat, and started to remove items as we spoke.

This person wasn't buying anything essential and the reason for being out of home was completely avoidable. When I told the person I was heading off to continue work, the person coughed in my direction as I stepped closer to pick up equipment. I had been keeping my distance.

There is no guarantee this person was infected but there is enough cause for concern. I don't think, due to the mask, gloves, eye protection I was wearing, I could have been infected.

If this person is knowingly/recklessly spreading the virus, and this person can be identified, should this be raised and if so, to whom?

donkmeister

12,882 posts

129 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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ReverendCounter said:
If this person is knowingly/recklessly spreading the virus, and this person can be identified, should this be raised and if so, to whom?
The police. That isn't sarcasm or facetiousness, the police are tasked with trying to prevent spread of COVID19.

speedking31

3,913 posts

165 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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I can visualise plane loads of ISIS fighters flying into northern Italy and then on to destinations around the world. Much cheaper than other suicide operations.

bristolracer

5,949 posts

178 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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speedking31 said:
I can visualise plane loads of ISIS fighters flying into northern Italy and then on to destinations around the world. Much cheaper than other suicide operations.
They can't claim it as a strike against the infidels.
Who can prove where the virus came from ?
They like stuff that gets media coverage, hence they do not blow up telephone exchanges or other strategic targets that would do far greater damage.
A pop concert full of teenagers or driving a truck into a crowd is terrorism, and that is what they thrive upon, it's the implied terror, cv19 kills without prejudice

768

20,678 posts

125 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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bristolracer said:
Who can prove where the virus came from ?
Allah.

Pretty sure though I heard that ISIS were asking to wash hands and avoid Europe. Probably setting up their working from home offices at the moment.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

246 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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ReverendCounter said:
I had a conversation very recently with someone who was stifling coughs, looked pale and was complaining of being too hot, yet had put on a good amount of layers including a jumper under a heavy coat, and started to remove items as we spoke.

This person wasn't buying anything essential and the reason for being out of home was completely avoidable. When I told the person I was heading off to continue work, the person coughed in my direction as I stepped closer to pick up equipment. I had been keeping my distance.

There is no guarantee this person was infected but there is enough cause for concern. I don't think, due to the mask, gloves, eye protection I was wearing, I could have been infected.

If this person is knowingly/recklessly spreading the virus, and this person can be identified, should this be raised and if so, to whom?
Sounds like you'd better isolate.

ReverendCounter

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205 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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vonhosen said:
Sounds like you'd better isolate.
Yep, think you're right.

ReverendCounter

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205 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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I've just reported via 101 Chat to local constabulary.

martinbiz

3,699 posts

174 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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I'm sure there would a criminal aspect to actions like these, I believe that Neanderthal prat Diego Costa is being investigated by the football authorities and the Police, for coughing at someone as a joke when arriving back at an airport last week

ReverendCounter

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205 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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"At the moment we do not have the officers to attend single person being out when they shouldn't but I have made a note of the details" was the response.

No mention of the intentional coughing in my direction or the very clear possibility of multiple infections and no advice to self isolate.

Killer2005

20,594 posts

257 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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speedking31 said:
I can visualise plane loads of ISIS fighters flying into northern Italy and then on to destinations around the world. Much cheaper than other suicide operations.
ISIS have already put out an order to avoid Europe anyway.

Enut

1,003 posts

102 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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I was told by an intensive care worker today that they had a person in who recovered but was tested and the test result was not known yet, he was advised to self isolate........he went to the pub. The result came back positive, what a ****, God knows how many people he infected in that pub.

Jasandjules

72,595 posts

258 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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speedking31 said:
I can visualise plane loads of ISIS fighters flying into northern Italy and then on to destinations around the world. Much cheaper than other suicide operations.
They don't need to. We are doing more economic damage to ourselves than terrorism can manage.....

ReverendCounter

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6,087 posts

205 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Gromm said:
Well at least they have a record of it, I think their rationale is that it’s not actionable unless someone develops symptoms and they can prove beyond reasonable doubt that it was a) malicious b) caused the infection.

Personally I think you should be alright though since you were wearing protective gear and it was in an open space if I read it right.
Looking at it from the points you've presented, yes I agree - it would be difficult to prove intent, as he didn't actually cough in my face.

Will ask about being tested if I get the go ahead as an NHS volunteer.

A Winner Is You

26,064 posts

256 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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America doesn't fk around when it comes to these things

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/25/man-charged-terrori...

craigjm

21,458 posts

229 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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In South Africa they have charged two people who were out in public whilst displaying symptoms with attempted murder

NNH

1,548 posts

161 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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A Winner Is You said:
America doesn't fk around when it comes to these things

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/25/man-charged-terrori...
The UK isn't messing around, either: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-her...

Wanchaiwarrior

375 posts

243 months

Wednesday 25th March 2020
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Enut said:
I was told by an intensive care worker today that they had a person in who recovered but was tested and the test result was not known yet, he was advised to self isolate........he went to the pub. The result came back positive, what a ****, God knows how many people he infected in that pub.
First case here in Wellington was brought in by a bloke flying in from Brisbane to visit his family here before he got his test results.

That was about a week ago

Day 1 of total lockdown here in NZ, have been working from home for 3 days already.
Everywhere is shut, police on the streets politely talking to anyone out at the moment.

www.covid19.govt.nz is our website for all things COV-19 if you want to compare with UK

ReverendCounter

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6,087 posts

205 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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NNH said:
The UK isn't messing around, either: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-her...
There is apparently much, much more to that particularly nasty incident than the police/media are alluding to, but I think it's best left for another thread.

Incidentally it's taken an awful lot to get the police to do something about those particularly well known scum.

Edited by ReverendCounter on Thursday 26th March 02:01

NNH

1,548 posts

161 months

Thursday 26th March 2020
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ReverendCounter said:
NNH said:
The UK isn't messing around, either: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-her...
There is apparently much, much more to that particularly nasty incident than the police/media are alluding to, but I think it's best left for another thread.

Incidentally it's taken an awful lot to get the police to do something about those particularly well known scum.

Edited by ReverendCounter on Thursday 26th March 02:01
I will look forward to that thread