Agricultural vehicle
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daytona355

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825 posts

228 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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I have a SXS classed as an agricultural vehicle, used mainly for agricultural pursuits. It only has 2 seats in the front, and then a topper behind the cab. On the fields, my daughter will strap into the normal seats and come with me, but she always wants to come with me on the road if I go to another farm, shooting etc.

My question for the label eagles here is - as a 3 year old, in the cars I have car seats, and she is confined to the rear seats. Since this vehicle only has a front row, for her to go on the road, do I need a car seat for her (which would not really fit properly due to the flat bench style of the seating) or, as an agricultural vehicle only used as an occasional road vehicle, is it exempt from the car seat rule. I think she is safer using the actual vehicles seat belt, given the low sides of the vehicle, as she is still below the height of the doors, whereas in a car seat, she would actually be sat at a higher level than the top of the door, and in my opinion, more precarious?

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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Above the doors? Do you mean on the roof? I doubt that you do. The key question should be is the child safer in a child seat? If a child seat can be secured to the vehicle, the seat may offer more crash protection than the vehicle itself does.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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Consider also the injury risk that a seat belt designed for use by adults and larger children can pose to a small child. There are car seats that can be used with flat bench style seats.

agtlaw

7,403 posts

235 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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See the part headed - Carrying passengers on farm machinery.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/agriculture/topics/children...

I haven’t the time to check if the info on the HSE page is correct.

daytona355

Original Poster:

825 posts

228 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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Thanks very much!

4rephill

5,167 posts

207 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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agtlaw said:
See the part headed - Carrying passengers on farm machinery.

https://www.hse.gov.uk/agriculture/topics/children...

I haven’t the time to check if the info on the HSE page is correct.
Hmmm....Pretty much broke all of those laws on children and agricultural machinery back in the 70's with my Dad when he worked on the farm (I think there was a general feeling that children were easily replaceable back then! hehe )

Aged @ 7~13 years of age:

Riding in tractor cabs sat on the wheel arch? - Check! (No passenger's seat back then)
Riding on the wheel arch of cab-less tractors? - Check!
Riding on the lower arms of the rear 3 point lift hitch? - Check! (Told to never tell my Mum about that one! hehe)
Riding in trailers towed by Tractors? - Check!
Riding in a trailer on top of stacked hay bales? - Check!


First thing I ever drove was one of these in a field when I was @ 8 years old:



A County 1164! cloud9

Happy days! smile

daytona355

Original Poster:

825 posts

228 months

Monday 13th April 2020
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Hahaha, nice one Phil!

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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4rephill said:
Hmmm....Pretty much broke all of those laws on children and agricultural machinery back in the 70's with my Dad when he worked on the farm (I think there was a general feeling that children were easily replaceable back then! hehe )

Aged @ 7~13 years of age:

Riding in tractor cabs sat on the wheel arch? - Check! (No passenger's seat back then)
Riding on the wheel arch of cab-less tractors? - Check!
Riding on the lower arms of the rear 3 point lift hitch? - Check! (Told to never tell my Mum about that one! hehe)
Riding in trailers towed by Tractors? - Check!
Riding in a trailer on top of stacked hay bales? - Check!


First thing I ever drove was one of these in a field when I was @ 8 years old:



A County 1164! cloud9

Happy days! smile
No idea why, but I think that's quite a cool looking tractor! biggrin

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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There is a classic tractor for sale down the road from me. I think maybe 1950s or 1960s, but I know Jack about tractors. I am getting the wants.

Pegscratch

1,872 posts

137 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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Breadvan72 said:
There is a classic tractor for sale down the road from me. I think maybe 1950s or 1960s, but I know Jack about tractors. I am getting the wants.
It's vehicle with wheel bearings, transmission, a big noisy bit up front with round things that go up and down and make fire to make it go forward.

Do it. Post it up.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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I may check it out while out for a bike ride later. The head clerk at my old chambers has a 1957 tractor, and I have a dairy farmer friend who has a vast collection of tractors ancient and modern, so I can tap those two up for socially distanced tyre kicking and teeth sucking advice. I have just missed out on an Austin Princess that I meant to buy in honour of my departed dad, who used to take me to and from university in his one, so I could always buy something that goes about as fast as a Princess.

Sorry, OP, please have yer thread back.

Jarcy

1,559 posts

304 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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flashbang said:
4rephill said:
Hmmm....Pretty much broke all of those laws on children and agricultural machinery back in the 70's with my Dad when he worked on the farm (I think there was a general feeling that children were easily replaceable back then! hehe )

Aged @ 7~13 years of age:

Riding in tractor cabs sat on the wheel arch? - Check! (No passenger's seat back then)
Riding on the wheel arch of cab-less tractors? - Check!
Riding on the lower arms of the rear 3 point lift hitch? - Check! (Told to never tell my Mum about that one! hehe)
Riding in trailers towed by Tractors? - Check!
Riding in a trailer on top of stacked hay bales? - Check!


First thing I ever drove was one of these in a field when I was @ 8 years old:



A County 1164! cloud9

Happy days! smile
No idea why, but I think that's quite a cool looking tractor! biggrin
Made in my home town. smile Long since gone, of course.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

129 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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flashbang said:
No idea why, but I think that's quite a cool looking tractor! biggrin
Its the fact it has equal sized wheels perhaps, compared to most tractors which are big rears/small fronts?

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 14th April 2020
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Shakermaker said:
flashbang said:
No idea why, but I think that's quite a cool looking tractor! biggrin
Its the fact it has equal sized wheels perhaps, compared to most tractors which are big rears/small fronts?
That's a good point but I also like the sloped front end and colour scheme. cool