LFC v Atletico Madrid 11th March - Negligence Question
LFC v Atletico Madrid 11th March - Negligence Question
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DSLiverpool

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16,503 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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There is a furore about why this game went ahead, its getting louder and it got me thinking. I am a hospitality season ticket holder and was at the game, they sell hospitality seats to away fans as well as home fans and I found myself sat next to 2 Spanish supporters. (I was very nerny about this and contemplated leaving but didnt).

If I had known I was sitting next to Spanish I wouldnt have gone, did LFC breach any duty of care of was this prior to having any rules in place?

Interested in (informed) opinion.

Carbon Sasquatch

5,223 posts

93 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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It's all easy / obvious in hindsight.

At the time, games in Spain were off, but they were not in lockdown - hence fans could travel.

You knew there would be away fans there - you could have left at any point after realising the proximity

Hard to see what you think LFC should have done really.....

Countdown

49,376 posts

225 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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DSLiverpool said:
There is a furore about why this game went ahead, its getting louder and it got me thinking. I am a hospitality season ticket holder and was at the game, they sell hospitality seats to away fans as well as home fans and I found myself sat next to 2 Spanish supporters. (I was very nerny about this and contemplated leaving but didnt).

If I had known I was sitting next to Spanish I wouldnt have gone, did LFC breach any duty of care of was this prior to having any rules in place?

Interested in (informed) opinion.
I think LFC would have been damned if they did and damned if they didn't. You would have had lots of supporters arguing that they were adult enough and responsible enough to make their own decisions (much as you do elsewhere on the various CV19 threads)

DSLiverpool

Original Poster:

16,503 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Mixing the fans is my only issue, because its hospitality they sell to both sides. I am told a class action is being discussed so I`ll just join that.

AJB88

15,765 posts

200 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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DSLiverpool said:
There is a furore about why this game went ahead, its getting louder and it got me thinking. I am a hospitality season ticket holder and was at the game, they sell hospitality seats to away fans as well as home fans and I found myself sat next to 2 Spanish supporters. (I was very nerny about this and contemplated leaving but didnt).

If I had known I was sitting next to Spanish I wouldnt have gone, did LFC breach any duty of care of was this prior to having any rules in place?

Interested in (informed) opinion.
Claim compensation... call your lawyer.


deckster

9,631 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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What loss have you suffered for which you are seeking redress?

200Plus Club

13,565 posts

307 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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All a bit pathetic. Who was injured and how did it affect you personally?

Justatwist

92 posts

191 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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DSLiverpool said:
Mixing the fans is my only issue, because its hospitality they sell to both sides. I am told a class action is being discussed so I`ll just join that.
If you’re a hospitality season ticket holder would you not have experienced sitting next to away fans at previous games? If so you could have reasonably expected the same to happen at this game.


zzrman

670 posts

218 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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200Plus Club said:
All a bit pathetic. Who was injured and how did it affect you personally?
Couldn't agree more. Utterly pathetic. Mind you in the US there would be lawyers crawling all over this alleging mental distress and god knows what.

Driver101

14,451 posts

150 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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That would be all clubs need if their own fans want to start digging holes for them.

The information was out there for you to make an informed choice to go or not.

Edited by Driver101 on Tuesday 21st April 10:40

MOBB

4,558 posts

156 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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DSLiverpool said:
Mixing the fans is my only issue, because its hospitality they sell to both sides. I am told a class action is being discussed so I`ll just join that.
Did you get infected?

donkmeister

12,874 posts

129 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Wouldn't they fall back on "FIFA and the FA hadn't brought in measures to postpone matches at that time"? I'm not a footballist but I recall the matches started to get postponed around the same day as the "WFH if you can" directive.

Brave Fart

6,506 posts

140 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Wait a minute OP; you're thinking of joining a class action that would cost the club you support lots of money?
It's like taking legal action against a relative because they hosted a family lunch before the March 26th lockdown regulations came in to force.
Liverpool acted quite normally and in compliance with the regulations at the time.
Have a word with yourself!

DSLiverpool

Original Poster:

16,503 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Justatwist said:
DSLiverpool said:
Mixing the fans is my only issue, because its hospitality they sell to both sides. I am told a class action is being discussed so I`ll just join that.
If you’re a hospitality season ticket holder would you not have experienced sitting next to away fans at previous games? If so you could have reasonably expected the same to happen at this game.
In 20 years I never have, its always been LFC fans, I assume whoever had them sold them to a tout.

paintman

7,860 posts

219 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Leaving covid issues aside that's something else wrong with football.
Years & years of violence & thuggery by so-called 'fans' putting genuine fans in fear of being anywhere near the oppositions supporters.
An enormous waste of police & medical resources dealing with the result of what is after all a commercial organisation.




Edited by paintman on Tuesday 21st April 10:59

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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DSLiverpool said:
Mixing the fans is my only issue, because its hospitality they sell to both sides. I am told a class action is being discussed so I`ll just join that.
Really? As asked, what is your loss? Worried that you might have fought a bug, even though you didn’t?

Can I join, I’m now worried that you’re worried?

Has it really come to this? FFS, get over it.

Mariosbt

2,452 posts

95 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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DSLiverpool said:
There is a furore about why this game went ahead, its getting louder and it got me thinking. I am a hospitality season ticket holder and was at the game, they sell hospitality seats to away fans as well as home fans and I found myself sat next to 2 Spanish supporters. (I was very nerny about this and contemplated leaving but didnt).

If I had known I was sitting next to Spanish I wouldnt have gone, did LFC breach any duty of care of was this prior to having any rules in place?

Interested in (informed) opinion.
Had you known they would turn the game round and batter LFC you would probably have left at halftime. biglaugh : party:

Jayho

2,413 posts

199 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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So is the problem that you had to sit next to an Atletico fan or because you had to sit next to a Spanish citizen?

Was there extreme aggravation from that individual and did they behave in any way which you felt threatened by?

Would it have been any different if it was a Spanish Citizen but a LFC fan? Or if it were even a British Citizen who supported Manchester Untied but got a free hospitality pass?

I'm not going to lie, I've been in hospitality for events where I either didn't support either team and / or sometimes wasn't even all that fond of the sport I was watching. Would you have had a problem with myself as a neutral turn up to a hospitality event and had been sat next to you as a neutral?

Mariosbt

2,452 posts

95 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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paintman said:
Leaving covid issues aside that's something else wrong with football.
Years & years of violence & thuggery by so-called 'fans' putting genuine fans in fear of being anywhere near the oppositions supporters.
An enormous waste of police & medical resources dealing with the result of what is after all a commercial organisation.

Did you see the LFC fans behaviour last season when Manchester City’s player coach was arriving at Anfield? Utterly disgraceful behaviour and the police did nothing , the club wasn’t punished in any way. Unbelievable.
Fans just think they can do what they want. frown

Edited by paintman on Tuesday 21st April 10:59

DSLiverpool

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16,503 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st April 2020
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Mariosbt said:
DSLiverpool said:
There is a furore about why this game went ahead, its getting louder and it got me thinking. I am a hospitality season ticket holder and was at the game, they sell hospitality seats to away fans as well as home fans and I found myself sat next to 2 Spanish supporters. (I was very nerny about this and contemplated leaving but didnt).

If I had known I was sitting next to Spanish I wouldnt have gone, did LFC breach any duty of care of was this prior to having any rules in place?

Interested in (informed) opinion.
Had you known they would turn the game round and batter LFC you would probably have left at halftime. biglaugh : party:
100% yes went from concern to elation to misery. Not the best of days