Potential outcome from speeding

[XLR Motorsport]

The initial message was deleted from this topic on 13 June 2020 at 11:18

[TCX]

'Taking into consideration',just say she considers speed limits 'guidelines?'
Or maybe just watch her speed in future,if speeding conviction brings hardship,more reason to take care,not use it as some reason to beg,some lessons are hard for a reason hth

[Centurion07]

XLR Motorsport said:

On a recent round trip back down south, my wife fears she may have gone through four sets of average speed cameras on the A12, possibly excessively at speed on more than one occasion. The car is in my name, so while we await to see what drops on to our door mat, I'd like some opinions based on others' experiences please. My wife does not work or earn, she has two young children under the age of 5 and I work away from home every week. We live in the Suffolk countryside some 6 miles from the nearest town with no amenities within walking distance and zero public transport links (yes, isolation was easy for us!). So, if the worst comes to the worst, based on any magistrate taking that information into consideration, what do you think the outcome may be?

You're lucky enough to be able to afford a property out in the countryside miles from anywhere, support a wife that doesn't work and have two kids and this is somehow mitigating circumstances? Are you serious?

[ARHarh]

I have a fool proof method of never getting a speeding fine.

Stay under the speed limit, guess this is as helpful as the thread will get

[LunarOne]

I'm not a lawyer, but what's likely to happen will depend on how excessive the speed was on each occasion, and whether the court would consider that more than one offence occurred on the same occasion, in which case you'd only get one set of points and fines for each occasion. I don't know how close together each offence has to be to be deemed one occasion, but I'm pretty sure they would have to occur during a single journey.

https://www.richardsilver.co.uk/news/caught-speedi...

[Tony1963]

Has she told you how fast she was going? She’ll need to be honest with you and us, otherwise there’s no point proceeding with this thread.

[kiethton]

If it was all one drive, without slowing down, you should be able to argue it was a single speeding event - ergo just one prosecution.

The penalty will reflect the speed - either a course, fixed penalty or court (and all the issues that may bring - points/bans and bigger fines). Totally dependent on the speed versus the limit that comes through (if it does).

[Sheepshanks]

XLR Motorsport said:

So, if the worst comes to the worst, based on any magistrate taking that information into consideration, what do you think the outcome may be?

I suppose the worst is she'll get a driving ban.

[agtlaw]

XLR Motorsport said:

On a recent round trip back down south, my wife fears she may have gone through four sets of average speed cameras on the A12, possibly excessively at speed on more than one occasion. The car is in my name, so while we await to see what drops on to our door mat, I'd like some opinions based on others' experiences please. My wife does not work or earn, she has two young children under the age of 5 and I work away from home every week. We live in the Suffolk countryside some 6 miles from the nearest town with no amenities within walking distance and zero public transport links (yes, isolation was easy for us!). So, if the worst comes to the worst, based on any magistrate taking that information into consideration, what do you think the outcome may be?

If two or more offences are committed "on the same occasion" then s.28(4) RTOA 1988 is helpful. Otherwise, police discretion whether to enforce some or all matters. A course (or courses) may be available if the speed detected is below the course threshold and you're eligible.

[SS2.]

XLR Motorsport said:

From what she has told me, she doesn't know what speed she was doing but, at times, probably significantly higher than the threshold. Furthermore, the two sets of cameras are in two different counties, so whether or not that will make a difference, I don't know.

What threshold are you referring to - the threshold for action, for a course, or for court ?

Fines only become means related if the matter is proceeded to court.

AGT has this useful table posted on his website:

[Sheepshanks]

XLR Motorsport said:

When I was younger, my mother got prosecuted for speeding excessively (80 on a 50mph dual carriageway) and went before a magistrate. Her personal circumstances dictated the course of action against her - she didn't work and didn't have an income (my father's wage was the sole source of income), and she had two children of school age. She received no fine and no points but was given a 4 week driving ban, that was all. That was nearly 20 years ago though and things have probably changed in the justice system since then, but I recall reading somewhere than in the past few years fines have changed to be proportionate to their income.

They can go off household income.