Are their more hidden speed traps?
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Does anyone know if stats are publicly available on the annual numbers of a) handheld hidden police speed traps and b) "camera van" speed traps and c) fixed post-based speed traps? The reason for asking is I've noticed more hidden pc staff operating handhelds recently than I noticed in the past. (edited to correct typos, and no I wasn't speeding, I enjoy life more leisurely)
Edited by Buzzfan on Saturday 6th June 23:47
Buzzfan said:
Does anyone know if stats are publicly available on the annual numbers of a) handheld hidden police speed trains and b) "canwravan" speed traps and c) fixed post-based speed traps? The reason for asking is I've noticed hidden pc staff operating handhelds than I noticed in the past.
No idea - But if you're worried about it, stick to the speed limits 
shovelheadrob said:
Can't answer the op's question (or quite understand some of it) but a friend saw a local bin lorry being used as a camera speed trap a week or so ago in Lincolnshire. The operatives weren't too happy when he stopped in the lay by to take their photo...
Local Bin Wagon?How does that work then?
I remember, in the early 80's, BT allowing the Police to use one of their vans for surveillance in the West end of Newcastle, Scotswood, IIRC a very rough area.
When the locals found out, no BT van was safe from bricks in that estate for years.
mickyh7 said:
Local Bin Wagon?
How does that work then?
I remember, in the early 80's, BT allowing the Police to use one of their vans for surveillance in the West end of Newcastle, Scotswood, IIRC a very rough area.
When the locals found out, no BT van was safe from bricks in that estate for years.
I saw the photo, it had a camera van sign on the back & a camera in the bit where the rubbish goes, 2 operatives in the cab with laptops I think. It could of course been some bin men having a laugh on their break. ...How does that work then?
I remember, in the early 80's, BT allowing the Police to use one of their vans for surveillance in the West end of Newcastle, Scotswood, IIRC a very rough area.
When the locals found out, no BT van was safe from bricks in that estate for years.
shovelheadrob said:
mickyh7 said:
Local Bin Wagon?
How does that work then?
I remember, in the early 80's, BT allowing the Police to use one of their vans for surveillance in the West end of Newcastle, Scotswood, IIRC a very rough area.
When the locals found out, no BT van was safe from bricks in that estate for years.
I saw the photo, it had a camera van sign on the back & a camera in the bit where the rubbish goes, 2 operatives in the cab with laptops I think. It could of course been some bin men having a laugh on their break. ...How does that work then?
I remember, in the early 80's, BT allowing the Police to use one of their vans for surveillance in the West end of Newcastle, Scotswood, IIRC a very rough area.
When the locals found out, no BT van was safe from bricks in that estate for years.
You know, when drivers hurl abuse or drive on the pavement, just because they've been held up for a minute....
Puddenchucker said:
You don't think it's to record drivers being knobs while the bin men are just donig their job?
You know, when drivers hurl abuse or drive on the pavement, just because they've been held up for a minute....
Just googled that.You know, when drivers hurl abuse or drive on the pavement, just because they've been held up for a minute....
Catching drivers overtaking on the footpath!
I think your probably right.
4rephill said:
No idea - But if you're worried about it, stick to the speed limits
Good idea. Giving up on the idea of trying to outwit speed cameras & the law in general is a bit like growing up. Suddenly you don't have a need to prove anything or have to waste anger & energy on that that cannot be changed or beaten. Trouble is many cannot do this because it is considered weak to give up thus ego & pride takes over, some just refuse to obey because nobody is going to tell them what to do. Off topic - but this why no way on earth will protesters obey being asked (not told) not to congregate during these times.
Puddenchucker said:
shovelheadrob said:
mickyh7 said:
Local Bin Wagon?
How does that work then?
I remember, in the early 80's, BT allowing the Police to use one of their vans for surveillance in the West end of Newcastle, Scotswood, IIRC a very rough area.
When the locals found out, no BT van was safe from bricks in that estate for years.
I saw the photo, it had a camera van sign on the back & a camera in the bit where the rubbish goes, 2 operatives in the cab with laptops I think. It could of course been some bin men having a laugh on their break. ...How does that work then?
I remember, in the early 80's, BT allowing the Police to use one of their vans for surveillance in the West end of Newcastle, Scotswood, IIRC a very rough area.
When the locals found out, no BT van was safe from bricks in that estate for years.
You know, when drivers hurl abuse or drive on the pavement, just because they've been held up for a minute....
I assume the bin men were not still lobbing rubbish in around the camera...
WJNB said:
4rephill said:
No idea - But if you're worried about it, stick to the speed limits
Good idea. Giving up on the idea of trying to outwit speed cameras & the law in general is a bit like growing up. Suddenly you don't have a need to prove anything or have to waste anger & energy on that that cannot be changed or beaten. Trouble is many cannot do this because it is considered weak to give up thus ego & pride takes over, some just refuse to obey because nobody is going to tell them what to do. Off topic - but this why no way on earth will protesters obey being asked (not told) not to congregate during these times.
Some people discover the virtue of abandoning the confrontational fkuck you attitude early in life and use time and energy for more useful things instead whilst other rather more stubborn and hard of thinking don't. There's a few posters on PH who present as classic examples and you only have to skip through a few threads they've dominated to discover a relentless undercurrent of egotistical self-serving entitlement and a deeply entrenched nilhistic attitude to the law to see these people clearly haven't got it yet.
And off topic too - if the weekends BLM protests have been further stoked by the disproportionate effect of Coronavirus on people of colour as reported this morning then you have to ask why are are tens of thousands of them deliberately exposing themselves to a significantly enhanced risk of infection by congregating en-masse contrary to the social distancing requirements aimed at stopping virus transmission? Do they not get it either?
JimSuperSix said:
Puddenchucker said:
shovelheadrob said:
mickyh7 said:
Local Bin Wagon?
How does that work then?
I remember, in the early 80's, BT allowing the Police to use one of their vans for surveillance in the West end of Newcastle, Scotswood, IIRC a very rough area.
When the locals found out, no BT van was safe from bricks in that estate for years.
I saw the photo, it had a camera van sign on the back & a camera in the bit where the rubbish goes, 2 operatives in the cab with laptops I think. It could of course been some bin men having a laugh on their break. ...How does that work then?
I remember, in the early 80's, BT allowing the Police to use one of their vans for surveillance in the West end of Newcastle, Scotswood, IIRC a very rough area.
When the locals found out, no BT van was safe from bricks in that estate for years.
You know, when drivers hurl abuse or drive on the pavement, just because they've been held up for a minute....
I assume the bin men were not still lobbing rubbish in around the camera...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-glouceste...
Puddenchucker said:
JimSuperSix said:
Puddenchucker said:
shovelheadrob said:
mickyh7 said:
Local Bin Wagon?
How does that work then?
I remember, in the early 80's, BT allowing the Police to use one of their vans for surveillance in the West end of Newcastle, Scotswood, IIRC a very rough area.
When the locals found out, no BT van was safe from bricks in that estate for years.
I saw the photo, it had a camera van sign on the back & a camera in the bit where the rubbish goes, 2 operatives in the cab with laptops I think. It could of course been some bin men having a laugh on their break. ...How does that work then?
I remember, in the early 80's, BT allowing the Police to use one of their vans for surveillance in the West end of Newcastle, Scotswood, IIRC a very rough area.
When the locals found out, no BT van was safe from bricks in that estate for years.
You know, when drivers hurl abuse or drive on the pavement, just because they've been held up for a minute....
I assume the bin men were not still lobbing rubbish in around the camera...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-glouceste...
<pointless pic>
Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 7th June 11:21
I personally think the police/government have done a good (or annoying depending on your pov) job of putting the fear of a fine in us so much, that low speed driving is the norm and - crucially - far more accepted.
By that I mean go back a decade or so and if you stuck to the speed limits sooner, not later, someone would be on your tailpipe and going nuts at you before making a seriously dangerous overtake.
Just as you watch him blast away and relax, another driver takes his place right behind you.
That type of driver seems to be far less out there now, presumably as he/she has points on their licence.
Or maybe I just don't use my mirrors anymore
By that I mean go back a decade or so and if you stuck to the speed limits sooner, not later, someone would be on your tailpipe and going nuts at you before making a seriously dangerous overtake.
Just as you watch him blast away and relax, another driver takes his place right behind you.
That type of driver seems to be far less out there now, presumably as he/she has points on their licence.
Or maybe I just don't use my mirrors anymore
JimSuperSix said:
Puddenchucker said:
JimSuperSix said:
Puddenchucker said:
shovelheadrob said:
mickyh7 said:
Local Bin Wagon?
How does that work then?
I remember, in the early 80's, BT allowing the Police to use one of their vans for surveillance in the West end of Newcastle, Scotswood, IIRC a very rough area.
When the locals found out, no BT van was safe from bricks in that estate for years.
I saw the photo, it had a camera van sign on the back & a camera in the bit where the rubbish goes, 2 operatives in the cab with laptops I think. It could of course been some bin men having a laugh on their break. ...How does that work then?
I remember, in the early 80's, BT allowing the Police to use one of their vans for surveillance in the West end of Newcastle, Scotswood, IIRC a very rough area.
When the locals found out, no BT van was safe from bricks in that estate for years.
You know, when drivers hurl abuse or drive on the pavement, just because they've been held up for a minute....
I assume the bin men were not still lobbing rubbish in around the camera...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-glouceste...
<pointless pic>
Edited by JimSuperSix on Sunday 7th June 11:21
However, if the OP posts up the the photo and I'm wrong, I'll happy apologise for being 'patronising'
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