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KungFuPanda

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4,639 posts

199 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid

49,040 posts

179 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Nothing to discuss. Car in front had to brake sharply, idiot behind was driving too close/fast/not concentrating.

Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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I was thinking the protester was lucky they stopped and didn't run them over!

Solocle

4,196 posts

113 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Liability is surely with the protester, this is a motorcade, there's a purpose to driving that closely, and you've got highly trained professionals driving.

Protester runs out into the road and causes a crash. Simples.

Hefty bill to accompany those criminal charges, methinks.

Wardy5

150 posts

235 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Nothing to discuss. Car in front had to brake sharply, idiot behind was driving too close/fast/not concentrating.
Well the 'idiot' was another Police driver who should be able to do better in those circumstances. Given they'd hardly got rolling.

But as far as liability is concerned, it's an internal incident.

Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Wardy5 said:
Well the 'idiot' was another Police driver who should be able to do better in those circumstances. Given they'd hardly got rolling.

But as far as liability is concerned, it's an internal incident.
The Jag came very close to hitting the motorbike, as well. However the reality is they dont expect to start and immediately stop. It should have been a clear road for them.

fastraxx

8,308 posts

132 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Solocle said:
Liability is surely with the protester, this is a motorcade, there's a purpose to driving that closely, and you've got highly trained professionals driving.

Protester runs out into the road and causes a crash. Simples.

Hefty bill to accompany those criminal charges, methinks.
If they were properly trained they wouldn’t have crashed

Solocle

4,196 posts

113 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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fastraxx said:
If they were properly trained they wouldn’t have crashed
While even the most highly trained professional can make a mistake, this is the Met's Special Escort Group, it's the SAS of policing.
You think they'd let coppers who weren't properly trained to the highest standards to escort the PM?

They operate under a special operating procedure, which involves a rolling roadblock. The proximity between the cars will be a feature, rather than a defect, to stop intrusion by a hostile vehicle.

The protester screwed up the rolling roadblock, and did so with intent to stop the motorcade.

dhutch

17,759 posts

226 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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The liability is one hundred percent the man riding as a passenger in the Jag. The rest of us are just casualties of his incompetence.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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fastraxx said:
Solocle said:
Liability is surely with the protester, this is a motorcade, there's a purpose to driving that closely, and you've got highly trained professionals driving.

Protester runs out into the road and causes a crash. Simples.

Hefty bill to accompany those criminal charges, methinks.
If they were properly trained they wouldn’t have crashed
Yeah that’ll be it, poor SEG training.

If you’d care to email them those exact words I’m sure it’ll all get sorted...

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

199 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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fking hell.

Now we have expert SEG drivers on PH.

rofl

meatballs

1,140 posts

89 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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Just think of the uproar when we spend £900000 getting the Jag resprayed with a union jack as well.

Flumpo

4,024 posts

102 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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Solocle said:
fastraxx said:
If they were properly trained they wouldn’t have crashed
While even the most highly trained professional can make a mistake, this is the Met's Special Escort Group, it's the SAS of policing.
You think they'd let coppers who weren't properly trained to the highest standards to escort the PM?

They operate under a special operating procedure, which involves a rolling roadblock. The proximity between the cars will be a feature, rather than a defect, to stop intrusion by a hostile vehicle.

The protester screwed up the rolling roadblock, and did so with intent to stop the motorcade.
No doubting they are highly trained, but did they fk up?

A few years back there was this incident with no doubt the sas of protection officers:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29784493

But they fked up.

I cant imagine today was a textbook response.

I can imagine there are a few frothing protestors who are now of the opinion the rolling road block can be stopped very easily.

V8 Stang

4,507 posts

212 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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In the USA you would have been shot if you got that close.

If you dare to step into the road here, you get a gun pointed at you, and told to "step back"


Stuart70

4,163 posts

212 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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V8 Stang said:
In the USA you would have been shot if you got that close.

If you dare to step into the road here, you get a gun pointed at you, and told to "step back"

Another reason to be grateful that we are not in the USA. All that we got was a bit of dented bodywork, not a dead protestor.

FiF

48,729 posts

280 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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Alucidnation said:
fking hell.

Now we have expert SEG drivers on PH.

rofl
Why not?

98elise

32,575 posts

190 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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FiF said:
Alucidnation said:
fking hell.

Now we have expert SEG drivers on PH.

rofl
Why not?
Agreed. Given the numbers on PH we are bound to have a wide cross section of expertise. Not everyone has sat in a office typing emails all day.


XCP

17,700 posts

257 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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La Liga said:
eah that’ll be it, poor SEG training.

If you’d care to email them those exact words I’m sure it’ll all get sorted...
Serious cake time though I'd say.

Ian Geary

5,600 posts

221 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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Totally.

How many times do we get told by the traf pol there's no such thing as an accident, just poor planning, preparation, concentration, not driving to the conditions etc.

Car behind took their eye off the ball.

I suggest their punishment is not being allowed to drive the fancy cars for a while, plus having some form of humorous poster put up in the station to mock them...


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surveyor_101

5,069 posts

208 months

Thursday 18th June 2020
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think the met need an urgent review as they need more resources to contain the protestors.

As said SEG run a very close vehicle grouping but they need to have a better controlled road space to avoid not bumping each other.

Also whilst its nice that we have a more relaxed security arrangement around the PM compared

I am glad the chap wasn't hurt, as just think how the left would riot if the police had shot the protestor.

Expect he is bruise as he seems to take the mirror of the police bike before being tackle and the rest of protestors ask for him to be released like he has down nothing!

I mean one black man who is druggie and brutally burgled a pregnant woman dies at the hands of police in the US and the riot and pull down statues in the UK, god knows what they would have used this guys death as an excuse to do over here.