any issues blocking own drive over white line?
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I'm pretty sure a Single White Line defines the edge of a carriageway. Its there to help you park if there are no streetlights.
I would most certainly park anywhere safe on this line.
Also, if there were any restrictions, there needs to be a sign up, on a pole or streetlight or wall.
IANAL
I would most certainly park anywhere safe on this line.
Also, if there were any restrictions, there needs to be a sign up, on a pole or streetlight or wall.
IANAL
Donbot said:
I thought you weren't supposed to park across a dropped kerb for pedestrian accessibility reasons.
I’m unclear from the op, but yes you can’t park on a dropped kerb. I don’t think owning the drive trumps the restriction. The odds of a traffic warden (not sure if it’s them or police) issuing any punishment is probably unlikely. But not impossible.
I have seen the police make people move from dropped kerbs.
steveo3002 said:
driveway with white line in the street , if theres no parking elsewhere is there any issues parking over your own driveway ?
home owner has suggested its not on ....but i dont see why traffic warden would patrol a street with no restrictions
White line markings (H-bar) markings are "access required indicators" which indicate that access is required at all times, and that parking in that area is very likely to cause an obstruction.home owner has suggested its not on ....but i dont see why traffic warden would patrol a street with no restrictions
They are not parking restrictions. However, some councils do enforce (occasionally) keeping these marking clear by issuing FPNs for obstruction. There is scope for confusion and time wasting by parking there, even if the access protected is your, so in the interest of a quiet life, it is best avoided.
If someone makes an issue of it and reports it to the council for traffic enforcement then a traffic warden could issue a ticket.
In my first job at 18 the office had off street parking for 4 cars with a solid whiteline preventing people from parking to block that access, we had an agreement with the local traffic warden that we would park our own cars on the white line and leave company letterhead in the windscreen so they knew they were our cars. Traffic warden had no issue with it as ultimately we were only inconveniencing ourselves by blocking each other in.
In my first job at 18 the office had off street parking for 4 cars with a solid whiteline preventing people from parking to block that access, we had an agreement with the local traffic warden that we would park our own cars on the white line and leave company letterhead in the windscreen so they knew they were our cars. Traffic warden had no issue with it as ultimately we were only inconveniencing ourselves by blocking each other in.
Donbot said:
I thought you weren't supposed to park across a dropped kerb for pedestrian accessibility reasons.
Surely under these circumstances, the dropped kerb was installed at the request (and charged to) the homeowner who wanted to use their driveway. If there were no driveway, the local authority wouldn’t install the dropped kerb merely for pedestrians.KungFuPanda said:
Donbot said:
I thought you weren't supposed to park across a dropped kerb for pedestrian accessibility reasons.
Surely under these circumstances, the dropped kerb was installed at the request (and charged to) the homeowner who wanted to use their driveway. If there were no driveway, the local authority wouldn’t install the dropped kerb merely for pedestrians.How does a traffic enforcement or whoever know the person who has parked there is the home owner?
Traffic person spots blocked drop kerb, knock on door. No answer. Jumps over garden gate in case they are in their hot tub. Not there. How does traffic person (could be wardens or police?) k ow who’s parked there?
Someone above said they used to have an agreement with the traffic wardens. That worked well for them.
These days this sort of service is outsourced, the private sector won’t care who’s car it is or isn’t. You don’t get your bonus for showing discretion.
You cannot park across a dropped kerb, even if it's for access to your own property.
Whether that's enforced by your local council is a different matter : I frequently park in front of my own drive but considering the car on the drive has no front end and only two wheels, it's pretty obvious that access is not being obstructed : doesn't negate the legality of it, but would expect that some common sense would be exercised if it came to it
Whether that's enforced by your local council is a different matter : I frequently park in front of my own drive but considering the car on the drive has no front end and only two wheels, it's pretty obvious that access is not being obstructed : doesn't negate the legality of it, but would expect that some common sense would be exercised if it came to it
Plenty of wrongness on this thread. There is actually a statutory exception which does allows you to block your own driveway.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/sectio...
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/sectio...
The law said:
In a special enforcement area a vehicle must not be parked on the carriageway adjacent to a footway, cycle track or verge where the footway, cycle track or verge has been lowered to meet the level of the carriageway...
This is subject to the following exceptions...
The second exception is where the vehicle is parked outside residential premises by or with the consent (but not consent given for reward) of the occupier of the premises.
This is subject to the following exceptions...
The second exception is where the vehicle is parked outside residential premises by or with the consent (but not consent given for reward) of the occupier of the premises.
Flumpo said:
How does a traffic enforcement or whoever know the person who has parked there is the home owner?
They don't, which is why local authorities don't usually enforce parking across driveways unless the occupier complains. If you did get a ticket for parking across your own drive, you would present evidence that you were the occcupier (or had his permission) and those would be valid grounds for appeal.Aretnap said:
Plenty of wrongness on this thread. There is actually a statutory exception which does allows you to block your own driveway.
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/sectio...
Which particular part of the legislation do you think applies to the op?http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/sectio...
The law said:
In a special enforcement area a vehicle must not be parked on the carriageway adjacent to a footway, cycle track or verge where the footway, cycle track or verge has been lowered to meet the level of the carriageway...
This is subject to the following exceptions...
The second exception is where the vehicle is parked outside residential premises by or with the consent (but not consent given for reward) of the occupier of the premises.
This is subject to the following exceptions...
The second exception is where the vehicle is parked outside residential premises by or with the consent (but not consent given for reward) of the occupier of the premises.
Flumpo said:
How does a traffic enforcement or whoever know the person who has parked there is the home owner?
They don't, which is why local authorities don't usually enforce parking across driveways unless the occupier complains. If you did get a ticket for parking across your own drive, you would present evidence that you were the occcupier (or had his permission) and those would be valid grounds for appeal.Flumpo said:
They are installed for access not pedestrians......
Really? - So what's the access for here then, if it's not for pedestrians?:
There's no driveway, no garage, and only a pedestrian gate to the property on the corner (Hidden by the van)
How about this one?:
If not for pedestrians, that's access for.............?
4rephill said:
Flumpo said:
They are installed for access not pedestrians......
Really? - So what's the access for here then, if it's not for pedestrians?:There's no driveway, no garage, and only a pedestrian gate to the property on the corner (Hidden by the van)
How about this one?:
If not for pedestrians, that's access for.............?
That’s very clearly a very different scenario from the one discussing.
Hey bob will ladders fit in your car?
No the ladders won’t fit in my car.
4rephill: what, no ladders fit in cars ever?
Some ladders may well fit in car, some dropped kerbs may well be for pedestrian access.
But the particular ladders bob has won’t fit in his car. The same way the op seems to be talking about dropped kerbs for vehicle access not ones for people to walk up.
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