Covid 19 contact data.

[Drawweight]

This may have been asked before but what happens to the data that is collected by pubs/restaurants in the name of contact tracing?

Is this included in the GDPR regulations and should be treated by businesses in the same way?

Or has the government given an opt out?

[bitchstewie]

My basic understanding is that yes GDPR still applies but the ICO has said they'll take a sensible approach given the speed and necessity with which some businesses will be handling this sort of data when they may not previously have had to do so.

[NikBartlett]

Mr Cummins and Mr M Mouse are popular choices of contact names.

[So]

Your contact details are harvested by HMG and will eventually be used for mind control.

[anonymous-user]

Does it matter when compared with what the likes of FB, google and amazon know and continually find out about us?

[sospan]

Just be glad you don’t live in China or Hong Kong.
A friend lived there for a few years. They have regular contact with friends, both UK citizens and Chinese using WhatsApp, Skype and others. The replies they get are VERY carefully worded. Yesterday they described how CCTV cameras are being put up everywhere with the eventual intention of using face recognition software to monitor everyone.

[voyds9]

sospan said:

Just be glad you don’t live in China or Hong Kong.
A friend lived there for a few years. They have regular contact with friends, both UK citizens and Chinese using WhatsApp, Skype and others. The replies they get are VERY carefully worded. Yesterday they described how CCTV cameras are being put up everywhere with the eventual intention of using face recognition software to monitor everyone.

Bet you don't have to persuade them to wear face masks, they will soon invent a face mask to throw off facial recognition
I also hear there is a shortage of umbrellas

[QuickQuack]

Data are subject to GDPR and collected under another legal basis (public task) so consent isn't needed. However, the data must be deleted when no longer necessary, after 14 days would be the maximum in the current circumstances, and must not be used for any other purpose.

[Durzel]

As flawed as Track and Trace is, I wouldn’t choose to make it even more useless by giving false details. I imagine the geniuses giving fake details and congratulating themselves on their rebellion are exactly the sort of people I’d want to avoid.

[cuprabob]

So that's why the girl behind the bar never called me after I gave her my phone number, GDPR

[Durzel]

[Marvib]

My company collects numbers for visitors [leisure industry]. We have a microsoft form that take numbers and auto passes them onto the NHS.

We do not store or save the numbers supplied.

NHS save the information for 21 days for tracing then delete.

[RSTurboPaul]

voyds9 said:

sospan said:

Just be glad you don’t live in China or Hong Kong.
A friend lived there for a few years. They have regular contact with friends, both UK citizens and Chinese using WhatsApp, Skype and others. The replies they get are VERY carefully worded. Yesterday they described how CCTV cameras are being put up everywhere with the eventual intention of using face recognition software to monitor everyone.

Bet you don't have to persuade them to wear face masks, they will soon invent a face mask to throw off facial recognition
I also hear there is a shortage of umbrellas

China have already developed cameras with 95% accurate facial recognition whilst wearing a mask.

Sunglasses and a mask makes it much harder, though.

[Gareth79]

Marvib]My company collects numbers for visitors [leisure industry said:

. We have a microsoft form that take numbers and auto passes them onto the NHS.

We do not store or save the numbers supplied.

NHS save the information for 21 days for tracing then delete.

That's odd the guidance says organisations must maintain the data and it will only be requested by NHS Test and Trace when necessary?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/maintaining-records-of...

Also as mentioned on that page the system is completely voluntary and customers can decline to provide their details, and where details are taken or already kept for booking and management... "If a customer or visitor informs you that they do not want their details shared for the purposes of NHS Test and Trace, they can choose to opt out, and if they do so you should not share their information used for booking purposes with NHS Test and Trace."

Within a few days of the system going live in pubs a young lady on Twitter posted a screenshot of a message she received on Facebook from a barman at a pub she visited the previous day...

Edited by Gareth79 on Monday 10th August 11:24

[voyds9]

RSTurboPaul said:

China have already developed cameras with 95% accurate facial recognition whilst wearing a mask.

Sunglasses and a mask makes it much harder, though.

Remember reading about some sunglasses designed to give glare to cameras so they couldn't identify points to get any comparison

[Dogwatch]

Gareth79 said:

Within a few days of the system going live in pubs a young lady on Twitter posted a screenshot of a message she received on Facebook from a barman at a pub she visited the previous day...

Nothing new though. Long before GDPR I had a phone call from a young lady who was the waitress at a restaurant I had booked a family meal at asking for my son's phone number! Even then it was a misuse of data, but young people...
They had a chat but he had just met a new girl (now wife) so that was that.

[bigandclever]

sospan said:

Just be glad you don’t live in China or Hong Kong.
A friend lived there for a few years. They have regular contact with friends, both UK citizens and Chinese using WhatsApp, Skype and others. The replies they get are VERY carefully worded. Yesterday they described how CCTV cameras are being put up everywhere with the eventual intention of using face recognition software to monitor everyone.

Maybe the Chinese people are the only ones who are surprised this is happening. It’s been an aim of the government since 2015 to have a national video surveillance network by 2020. Have a google for xueliang or the “sharp eyes” project.

[BobSaunders]

COVID-19 testing is just a method of obtaining DNA of people. Tin foil hats are our only option here.

[bad company]

Does anyone know why some places ask for contact details and some don’t?

All my local pubs & cafes do but on a night out in the West End of London last week none did.

[Marvib]

Gareth79 said:

That's odd the guidance says organisations must maintain the data and it will only be requested by NHS Test and Trace when necessary?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/maintaining-records-of...

Also as mentioned on that page the system is completely voluntary and customers can decline to provide their details, and where details are taken or already kept for booking and management... "If a customer or visitor informs you that they do not want their details shared for the purposes of NHS Test and Trace, they can choose to opt out, and if they do so you should not share their information used for booking purposes with NHS Test and Trace."

Within a few days of the system going live in pubs a young lady on Twitter posted a screenshot of a message she received on Facebook from a barman at a pub she visited the previous day...

Edited by Gareth79 on Monday 10th August 11:24

We inform our customers "the data will only be used to contact yourself by the NHS if there is a confirmed case on our premises" maybe we do store the data rather than pass it straight onto NHS, seems like I may have misunderstood how we are controlling the data, good job I'm not our GDPR officer