Cycle Lane
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TwigtheWonderkid

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179 months

Monday 10th August 2020
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Crazy question but humour me here. A cycle lane, on a one way street....one way or two way? Not a seperate lane on the pavement, but a cycle lane painted on to the actual road.

I know what I think, but see what the collective view is.

InitialDave

15,085 posts

148 months

Monday 10th August 2020
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Got a photo of the street in question?

Ham_and_Jam

3,699 posts

126 months

Monday 10th August 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Crazy question but humour me here. A cycle lane, on a one way street....one way or two way? Not a seperate lane on the pavement, but a cycle lane painted on to the actual road.

I know what I think, but see what the collective view is.
It’ll be specific to the road and hopefully obvious by the signage.

Generally cycle lanes tend to go with the same flow as other traffic unless separated from the road. HOWEVER our council are just implementing a 2 way cycle lane on a one way street in our town (not physically separated but painted area). A lot of debate going on with the locals that it’s an accident waiting to happen.

TwigtheWonderkid

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Monday 10th August 2020
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InitialDave said:
Got a photo of the street in question?
No, but pretty simple, circular one way system, cars joining at the 10 o clock position and wanting to go to the 9 o clock exit have to drive all the way round. It's not huge, maybe a mile or so, no big deal. But a cyclist doing the same thing, does he/she have to cycle a mile all the way round, or can the go against the traffic in the cycle lane for 100m to get from 10 to 9 o'clock?

TwigtheWonderkid

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Monday 10th August 2020
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Ham_and_Jam said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Crazy question but humour me here. A cycle lane, on a one way street....one way or two way? Not a seperate lane on the pavement, but a cycle lane painted on to the actual road.

I know what I think, but see what the collective view is.
It’ll be specific to the road and hopefully obvious by the signage.

Generally cycle lanes tend to go with the same flow as other traffic unless separated from the road. HOWEVER our council are just implementing a 2 way cycle lane on a one way street in our town (not physically separated but painted area). A lot of debate going on with the locals that it’s an accident waiting to happen.
There is no directional signage. Just a cycle lane with the usual cycle lane markings.

InitialDave

15,085 posts

148 months

Monday 10th August 2020
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In that case I'd assume the cycle lane is also one way, in the same direction as the road.

Ham_and_Jam

3,699 posts

126 months

Monday 10th August 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
There is no directional signage. Just a cycle lane with the usual cycle lane markings.
Two way cycle lanes on one ways streets are becoming more popular, but are usually made obvious by signage so other road users are aware of oncoming cyclists in that lane.

Can’t comment on the specific lanes you are posting about, but motor vehicles can usually cross over into cycle lanes legitimately when they’re empty. Having a cyclist suddenly appear when travelling against the flow without warning may not end well.

Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

215 months

Monday 10th August 2020
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InitialDave said:
In that case I'd assume the cycle lane is also one way, in the same direction as the road.
This. I recall some contraflow cycle lanes in Earls Court when I lived there many years ago but the signage was clear. In this case I'd assume it was with the traffic flow if it didn't jump out at you as being the other way round.

How about a google maps link op?

frisbee

5,597 posts

139 months

Monday 10th August 2020
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In the town I live in there are some cycle lanes that have markings directing you the wrong way down a one way street.

I think the planning of all cycle lanes is done on a Friday afternoon.

imagineifyeswill

1,250 posts

195 months

Monday 10th August 2020
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In the town where I live the Council have just in the last week have painted a solid white line on a well used road creating a cycle lane and declared it a one way street.
The cycle lane has directional arrows which would suggest it is also one way but in the opposite direction to motor traffic.

rscott

17,481 posts

220 months

Monday 10th August 2020
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Ham_and_Jam said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Crazy question but humour me here. A cycle lane, on a one way street....one way or two way? Not a seperate lane on the pavement, but a cycle lane painted on to the actual road.

I know what I think, but see what the collective view is.
It’ll be specific to the road and hopefully obvious by the signage.

Generally cycle lanes tend to go with the same flow as other traffic unless separated from the road. HOWEVER our council are just implementing a 2 way cycle lane on a one way street in our town (not physically separated but painted area). A lot of debate going on with the locals that it’s an accident waiting to happen.
They introduced one of these in Ipswich a few years ago - don't think there's been an increase in accidents, surprisingly.

PF62

4,065 posts

202 months

Monday 10th August 2020
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rscott said:
Ham_and_Jam said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Crazy question but humour me here. A cycle lane, on a one way street....one way or two way? Not a seperate lane on the pavement, but a cycle lane painted on to the actual road.

I know what I think, but see what the collective view is.
It’ll be specific to the road and hopefully obvious by the signage.

Generally cycle lanes tend to go with the same flow as other traffic unless separated from the road. HOWEVER our council are just implementing a 2 way cycle lane on a one way street in our town (not physically separated but painted area). A lot of debate going on with the locals that it’s an accident waiting to happen.
They introduced one of these in Ipswich a few years ago - don't think there's been an increase in accidents, surprisingly.
Where they are marked as cycle lanes it is usually fine, although you do occasionally get the odd pedestrian stepping off the pavement without looking the ‘correct’ way, but providing you are not blasting along it is fine.

Where councils have tried to be ‘clever’ then things can go amiss. A good example is Lambs Conduit Street in London which is not a one way street but cars and vans can only access it from one direction. From the other direction cars and vans are prohibited from entering but cyclists can legally (and intentionally} bypass the no entry by using a cycle lane.

The problem is the moron car and van drivers *think* it is a one way street and you are cycling the wrong way.

Hol

9,316 posts

229 months

Monday 10th August 2020
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In the city of London there are one way streets with two way cycling lanes, but they are clearly signposted as such.


donkmeister

12,871 posts

129 months

Tuesday 11th August 2020
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I know a couple of one-way roads that have had two-way cycling implemented. In both cases I'm pretty sure there isn't even a line to delineate the cycle lane (Google Maps is showing old versions of the roads), and there's parked cars on both of these roads.

I did find this on the council traffic minutes though: "The scheme design was subject to an independent Road Safety Audit assessment process. The provision of cycle contraflow arrangement is part of LTP policy whenever a road is considered for a future one-way operation."

If you're interested, these roads are "The Baulk" and "Back Street" in Biggleswade, Bedfordshire.