Why don't speed cameras face at rears?
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I know the reasons for bikes not having 'body splicer' front number plates, but what I don't get is why speed cameras can't be faced in the opposite direction so they can catch all speeding traffic rather than just number plates.
The amount of bikes I see speeding past a speed camera near me where it changes 50mph to 30mph but cars would get caught straight away is ridiculous. It's seems bikers are pretty much given a free pass on speeding?
Surely a second camera could be affixed to the back to catch the rear numberplate of speeding bikers?
The amount of bikes I see speeding past a speed camera near me where it changes 50mph to 30mph but cars would get caught straight away is ridiculous. It's seems bikers are pretty much given a free pass on speeding?
Surely a second camera could be affixed to the back to catch the rear numberplate of speeding bikers?
revvingit said:
I know the reasons for bikes not having 'body splicer' front number plates, but what I don't get is why speed cameras can't be faced in the opposite direction so they can catch all speeding traffic rather than just number plates.
The amount of bikes I see speeding past a speed camera near me where it changes 50mph to 30mph but cars would get caught straight away is ridiculous. It's seems bikers are pretty much given a free pass on speeding?
Surely a second camera could be affixed to the back to catch the rear numberplate of speeding bikers?
Why does it bother you so much? Get a bike if it’s a problem. The amount of bikes I see speeding past a speed camera near me where it changes 50mph to 30mph but cars would get caught straight away is ridiculous. It's seems bikers are pretty much given a free pass on speeding?
Surely a second camera could be affixed to the back to catch the rear numberplate of speeding bikers?
Rear facing cameras exist but they are more expensive, more complicated to set up and harder to calibrate.
But you are correct, they surely would have thought about all those DANGEROUS speeding bikes, right?
Wouldn't the extra investment for rear facing cameras would be worth it to keep everyone safe?
You know it's almost as if the speed cameras are just there to make money and they actually couldn't care less about safety... But that would be crazy...
But you are correct, they surely would have thought about all those DANGEROUS speeding bikes, right?
Wouldn't the extra investment for rear facing cameras would be worth it to keep everyone safe?
You know it's almost as if the speed cameras are just there to make money and they actually couldn't care less about safety... But that would be crazy...
revvingit said:
I know the reasons for bikes not having 'body splicer' front number plates, but what I don't get is why speed cameras can't be faced in the opposite direction so they can catch all speeding traffic rather than just number plates.
The amount of bikes I see speeding past a speed camera near me where it changes 50mph to 30mph but cars would get caught straight away is ridiculous. It's seems bikers are pretty much given a free pass on speeding?
Surely a second camera could be affixed to the back to catch the rear numberplate of speeding bikers?
I guess someone must be feeling a bit sore at being caught speeding in their car, and decided to engage in a bit of whatabouteryThe amount of bikes I see speeding past a speed camera near me where it changes 50mph to 30mph but cars would get caught straight away is ridiculous. It's seems bikers are pretty much given a free pass on speeding?
Surely a second camera could be affixed to the back to catch the rear numberplate of speeding bikers?
SS2. said:
If the powers that be felt like putting in a little legwork, a missing front number plate wouldn't necessarily protect a driver / rider from a front facing speed camera.
What on earth are you talking about? What 'legwork' do you want 'the powers that be' to do?Motorbikes have not had front number plates for probably about 30 years!
NGee said:
SS2. said:
If the powers that be felt like putting in a little legwork, a missing front number plate wouldn't necessarily protect a driver / rider from a front facing speed camera.
What on earth are you talking about? What 'legwork' do you want 'the powers that be' to do?Motorbikes have not had front number plates for probably about 30 years!
That belief is incorrect.
NGee said:
SS2. said:
Some folks seem to be under the impression that motorbikes (or other vehicles with missing / no front number plates) are immune from front facing unmanned cameras.
That belief is incorrect.
Explain please.That belief is incorrect.
MCN said:
Motorcyclists can be caught by front-facing speed cameras even though they don’t capture our number plates, a court case has shown.
Steven Skilton, 22, pleaded guilty to six separate speeding offences after being linked to speed camera photos by tiny details on his motorcycle and clothing. An expert who usually helps identify murderers and armed robbers from CCTV footage had pored over the images and found similarities such as the same single missing fairing bolt in each one.
The photos included one showing Skilton, from Ellis Road, Southampton, pulling an 82mph wheelie in a 30mph zone. Southampton magistrates handed him an 18-month ban, a £600 fine and no less than 39 points in his licence – six for each speeding offence plus three for riding without control.
Southampton roads policing officer Mick Gear said Skilton was captured after a description of him was issued to patrols. “He got stopped on an unrelated incident,” he said. “Then it was a matter of taking photographs at the time he was spot-checked and matching those with the enforcement camera photographs.”
The photos were then handed over to an image and recognition specialist from a Home Office list of approved expert witnesses. The expert told MCN: “I would normally be doing facial comparison and clothing comparison from armed robberies, murders and the like. I’m just applying a known and recognised system to this particular application where it hasn’t been used before.
“Even with forward-facing cameras there are ways of finding out who the motorcyclist is and the police are actively following this now.”
Gear added: “He has looked at the bike and found there is a screw missing out of the fairing windshield in every shot.”
Steven Skilton, 22, pleaded guilty to six separate speeding offences after being linked to speed camera photos by tiny details on his motorcycle and clothing. An expert who usually helps identify murderers and armed robbers from CCTV footage had pored over the images and found similarities such as the same single missing fairing bolt in each one.
The photos included one showing Skilton, from Ellis Road, Southampton, pulling an 82mph wheelie in a 30mph zone. Southampton magistrates handed him an 18-month ban, a £600 fine and no less than 39 points in his licence – six for each speeding offence plus three for riding without control.
Southampton roads policing officer Mick Gear said Skilton was captured after a description of him was issued to patrols. “He got stopped on an unrelated incident,” he said. “Then it was a matter of taking photographs at the time he was spot-checked and matching those with the enforcement camera photographs.”
The photos were then handed over to an image and recognition specialist from a Home Office list of approved expert witnesses. The expert told MCN: “I would normally be doing facial comparison and clothing comparison from armed robberies, murders and the like. I’m just applying a known and recognised system to this particular application where it hasn’t been used before.
“Even with forward-facing cameras there are ways of finding out who the motorcyclist is and the police are actively following this now.”
Gear added: “He has looked at the bike and found there is a screw missing out of the fairing windshield in every shot.”
MCN said:
Motorcyclists can be caught by front-facing speed cameras even though they don’t capture our number plates, a court case has shown.
Steven Skilton, 22, pleaded guilty to six separate speeding offences after being linked to speed camera photos by tiny details on his motorcycle and clothing. An expert who usually helps identify murderers and armed robbers from CCTV footage had pored over the images and found similarities such as the same single missing fairing bolt in each one.
The photos included one showing Skilton, from Ellis Road, Southampton, pulling an 82mph wheelie in a 30mph zone. Southampton magistrates handed him an 18-month ban, a £600 fine and no less than 39 points in his licence – six for each speeding offence plus three for riding without control.
Southampton roads policing officer Mick Gear said Skilton was captured after a description of him was issued to patrols. “He got stopped on an unrelated incident,” he said. “Then it was a matter of taking photographs at the time he was spot-checked and matching those with the enforcement camera photographs.”
The photos were then handed over to an image and recognition specialist from a Home Office list of approved expert witnesses. The expert told MCN: “I would normally be doing facial comparison and clothing comparison from armed robberies, murders and the like. I’m just applying a known and recognised system to this particular application where it hasn’t been used before.
“Even with forward-facing cameras there are ways of finding out who the motorcyclist is and the police are actively following this now.”
Gear added: “He has looked at the bike and found there is a screw missing out of the fairing windshield in every shot.”
Steven Skilton, 22, pleaded guilty to six separate speeding offences after being linked to speed camera photos by tiny details on his motorcycle and clothing. An expert who usually helps identify murderers and armed robbers from CCTV footage had pored over the images and found similarities such as the same single missing fairing bolt in each one.
The photos included one showing Skilton, from Ellis Road, Southampton, pulling an 82mph wheelie in a 30mph zone. Southampton magistrates handed him an 18-month ban, a £600 fine and no less than 39 points in his licence – six for each speeding offence plus three for riding without control.
Southampton roads policing officer Mick Gear said Skilton was captured after a description of him was issued to patrols. “He got stopped on an unrelated incident,” he said. “Then it was a matter of taking photographs at the time he was spot-checked and matching those with the enforcement camera photographs.”
The photos were then handed over to an image and recognition specialist from a Home Office list of approved expert witnesses. The expert told MCN: “I would normally be doing facial comparison and clothing comparison from armed robberies, murders and the like. I’m just applying a known and recognised system to this particular application where it hasn’t been used before.
“Even with forward-facing cameras there are ways of finding out who the motorcyclist is and the police are actively following this now.”
Gear added: “He has looked at the bike and found there is a screw missing out of the fairing windshield in every shot.”
MCN said:
Motorcyclists can be caught by front-facing speed cameras even though they don’t capture our number plates, a court case has shown.
Steven Skilton, 22, pleaded guilty to six separate speeding offences after being linked to speed camera photos by tiny details on his motorcycle and clothing. An expert who usually helps identify murderers and armed robbers from CCTV footage had pored over the images and found similarities such as the same single missing fairing bolt in each one.
The photos included one showing Skilton, from Ellis Road, Southampton, pulling an 82mph wheelie in a 30mph zone. Southampton magistrates handed him an 18-month ban, a £600 fine and no less than 39 points in his licence – six for each speeding offence plus three for riding without control.
Southampton roads policing officer Mick Gear said Skilton was captured after a description of him was issued to patrols. “He got stopped on an unrelated incident,” he said. “Then it was a matter of taking photographs at the time he was spot-checked and matching those with the enforcement camera photographs.”
The photos were then handed over to an image and recognition specialist from a Home Office list of approved expert witnesses. The expert told MCN: “I would normally be doing facial comparison and clothing comparison from armed robberies, murders and the like. I’m just applying a known and recognised system to this particular application where it hasn’t been used before.
“Even with forward-facing cameras there are ways of finding out who the motorcyclist is and the police are actively following this now.”
Gear added: “He has looked at the bike and found there is a screw missing out of the fairing windshield in every shot.”
Steven Skilton, 22, pleaded guilty to six separate speeding offences after being linked to speed camera photos by tiny details on his motorcycle and clothing. An expert who usually helps identify murderers and armed robbers from CCTV footage had pored over the images and found similarities such as the same single missing fairing bolt in each one.
The photos included one showing Skilton, from Ellis Road, Southampton, pulling an 82mph wheelie in a 30mph zone. Southampton magistrates handed him an 18-month ban, a £600 fine and no less than 39 points in his licence – six for each speeding offence plus three for riding without control.
Southampton roads policing officer Mick Gear said Skilton was captured after a description of him was issued to patrols. “He got stopped on an unrelated incident,” he said. “Then it was a matter of taking photographs at the time he was spot-checked and matching those with the enforcement camera photographs.”
The photos were then handed over to an image and recognition specialist from a Home Office list of approved expert witnesses. The expert told MCN: “I would normally be doing facial comparison and clothing comparison from armed robberies, murders and the like. I’m just applying a known and recognised system to this particular application where it hasn’t been used before.
“Even with forward-facing cameras there are ways of finding out who the motorcyclist is and the police are actively following this now.”
Gear added: “He has looked at the bike and found there is a screw missing out of the fairing windshield in every shot.”
Generally speaking motorbikes are exempt from front facing cameras. They are not going to put that much 'legwork' into every speeding motor cyclist.
NGee said:
MCN said:
Motorcyclists can be caught by front-facing speed cameras even though they don’t capture our number plates, a court case has shown.
Steven Skilton, 22, pleaded guilty to six separate speeding offences after being linked to speed camera photos by tiny details on his motorcycle and clothing. An expert who usually helps identify murderers and armed robbers from CCTV footage had pored over the images and found similarities such as the same single missing fairing bolt in each one.
The photos included one showing Skilton, from Ellis Road, Southampton, pulling an 82mph wheelie in a 30mph zone. Southampton magistrates handed him an 18-month ban, a £600 fine and no less than 39 points in his licence – six for each speeding offence plus three for riding without control.
Southampton roads policing officer Mick Gear said Skilton was captured after a description of him was issued to patrols. “He got stopped on an unrelated incident,” he said. “Then it was a matter of taking photographs at the time he was spot-checked and matching those with the enforcement camera photographs.”
The photos were then handed over to an image and recognition specialist from a Home Office list of approved expert witnesses. The expert told MCN: “I would normally be doing facial comparison and clothing comparison from armed robberies, murders and the like. I’m just applying a known and recognised system to this particular application where it hasn’t been used before.
“Even with forward-facing cameras there are ways of finding out who the motorcyclist is and the police are actively following this now.”
Gear added: “He has looked at the bike and found there is a screw missing out of the fairing windshield in every shot.”
OK so I agree there are exceptions, but 82 in a 30 is not your normal speeder!Steven Skilton, 22, pleaded guilty to six separate speeding offences after being linked to speed camera photos by tiny details on his motorcycle and clothing. An expert who usually helps identify murderers and armed robbers from CCTV footage had pored over the images and found similarities such as the same single missing fairing bolt in each one.
The photos included one showing Skilton, from Ellis Road, Southampton, pulling an 82mph wheelie in a 30mph zone. Southampton magistrates handed him an 18-month ban, a £600 fine and no less than 39 points in his licence – six for each speeding offence plus three for riding without control.
Southampton roads policing officer Mick Gear said Skilton was captured after a description of him was issued to patrols. “He got stopped on an unrelated incident,” he said. “Then it was a matter of taking photographs at the time he was spot-checked and matching those with the enforcement camera photographs.”
The photos were then handed over to an image and recognition specialist from a Home Office list of approved expert witnesses. The expert told MCN: “I would normally be doing facial comparison and clothing comparison from armed robberies, murders and the like. I’m just applying a known and recognised system to this particular application where it hasn’t been used before.
“Even with forward-facing cameras there are ways of finding out who the motorcyclist is and the police are actively following this now.”
Gear added: “He has looked at the bike and found there is a screw missing out of the fairing windshield in every shot.”
Generally speaking motorbikes are exempt from front facing cameras. They are not going to put that much 'legwork' into every speeding motor cyclist.
NGee said:
OK so I agree there are exceptions, but 82 in a 30 is not your normal speeder!
122 in a 30 isn't your normal speeder either but I didn't get prosecuted for it and I was actually stopped by a patrol car for that back in '92. Very strange circumstances though. Involving an assault and leading to charges dropped after a witness came forward. Hell of a day!Sounds very bad, but it was at a closed for business industrial estate over a weekend with a very wide and far sighted road running through it. Up there with the best of my daft achievements in life!
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