Another NIP.
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John Locke

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1,142 posts

81 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Son #4 has just received an NIP for 106 mph in a 70, clear road, good conditions etc. He is 39, clean licence, well maintained 911 Turbo. He saw the trap, but too late, he will not contest the facts, but would obviously like to minimise the consequences.
Best approach please gents.

fourstardan

6,524 posts

173 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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John Locke said:
Son #4 has just received an NIP for 106 mph in a 70, clear road, good conditions etc. He is 39, clean licence, well maintained 911 Turbo. He saw the trap, but too late, he will not contest the facts, but would obviously like to minimise the consequences.
Best approach please gents.
Appeal that you've serviced the Porsche really well and hope they'll reduce the prosecution LOL

SS2.

14,712 posts

267 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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This page is a good place to start.

LosingGrip

8,851 posts

188 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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To fast for a ticket.

Six points OR a ban between seven and 56 days.

Fine of between 125% and 175% of his weekly income.

surveyor_101

5,069 posts

208 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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John Locke said:
but would obviously like to minimise the consequences.
Best approach please gents.
There will be little minimising, we don't know what the road conditions were at the time.

If he kept in under 100 then that would have 'minimised' the impact.

He will get 6 pts over a decent fine or they can disqualify from 7 - 56 days.

If he has the means he could try a solicitor but the courts approach to 100 plus there is often little he can do other than if he is taxi driver, they get away with murder.



GreatGranny

9,519 posts

255 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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OP, do you think he deserves less punishment than a 20 year old doing the same speed in a 10 year Fezza which has missed a service? smile

He's an adult who I presume is reasonably intelligent given that he owns a 911 Turbo so he should be able to work out himself that over 70 means a fine and 3/6 points, 100+ is a possible ban and associated hassles as a result.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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For me, unless things have changed in recent years, I'd aim for a short term ban and try to avoid the points.

kiethton

14,645 posts

209 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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I got done at 110mph on the M25 a few years back, with some (false) aggravating accusations/S59 at the same time.

I had AGTLaw on here draft my mitigation statement, I turned up, dressed smartly and read it politely on the day. I also made a very large pension contribution to lower my net income substantially (they ask for net income on the form).

This ended up with 6 points and a £300 fine (plus costs etc.)

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Was this on a NSL dual carriageway or a motorway?

Lee540

1,586 posts

173 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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RonaldMcDonaldAteMyCat said:
For me, unless things have changed in recent years, I'd aim for a short term ban and try to avoid the points.
Why? My 6 points (SP30) expire on the 26th of this month and made no real difference to insurance premiums for the last 4 years.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Lee540 said:
Why? My 6 points (SP30) expire on the 26th of this month and made no real difference to insurance premiums for the last 4 years.
Why sit with 6 point on your licence for 3 years (meaning you're only 6 points from a 6 month totting up ban), when you can get no points and a couple of weeks off driving.

Very little difference with insurers either way.

The Rotrex Kid

34,775 posts

189 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Best course of action, as always, IMO, is to contact AGTLaw and pay for advice.

cheesesliceking

1,577 posts

269 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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I'm not going back to the Island John.

John Locke

Original Poster:

1,142 posts

81 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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SS2. said:
This page is a good place to start.
Thanks, I will pass that on.

surveyor_101 said:
There will be little minimising, we don't know what the road conditions were at the time.

If he kept in under 100 then that would have 'minimised' the impact.

He will get 6 pts over a decent fine or they can disqualify from 7 - 56 days.

If he has the means he could try a solicitor but the courts approach to 100 plus there is often little he can do other than if he is taxi driver, they get away with murder.
I did mention clear road and good conditions.
He does have the means, but is not a taxi driver.
GreatGranny said:
OP, do you think he deserves less punishment than a 20 year old doing the same speed in a 10 year Fezza which has missed a service? smile

He's an adult who I presume is reasonably intelligent given that he owns a 911 Turbo so he should be able to work out himself that over 70 means a fine and 3/6 points, 100+ is a possible ban and associated hassles as a result.
I have no idea what a Fezza is, so I don't know what they are designed to do safely. A missed service may or may not indicate poor maintenance and a defective vehicle. He is my son, so I am hardly impartial, thus not best qualified to judge.

martinbiz said:
Was this on a NSL dual carriageway or a motorway?
N/S/L dual carriageway, I believe.

The Rotrex Kid said:
Best course of action, as always, IMO, is to contact AGTLaw and pay for advice.
That too I will pass on thanks.

cheesesliceking said:
I'm not going back to the Island John.
Me neither. biglaugh
beer

Thanks all; I'll send him the link to this thread. cool





Heaveho

7,451 posts

203 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Best of luck to him. Some good advice above, among other things.

vaud

59,407 posts

184 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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The Rotrex Kid said:
Best course of action, as always, IMO, is to contact AGTLaw and pay for advice.
^^ This.

Cold

16,688 posts

119 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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Remind him not to drive to the Mags court.

fourstardan

6,524 posts

173 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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cheesesliceking said:
I'm not going back to the Island John.
Yes you are...

Back to the original post;

If a 39 year old Porsche driver can't even seek his own advice by using the internet (and relies on his dad) what chance does he have of worming out of a fine and ban to remind him maybe not go at a difference between killing someone or not when they get there license back.

PH_77

1,411 posts

122 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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But it was well maintained your honour...

John Locke

Original Poster:

1,142 posts

81 months

Tuesday 18th August 2020
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fourstardan said:
Yes you are...

Back to the original post;

If a 39 year old Porsche driver can't even seek his own advice by using the internet (and relies on his dad) what chance does he have of worming out of a fine and ban to remind him maybe not go at a difference between killing someone or not when they get there license back.
He has a demanding full time job; I am retired.
If you could be bothered to learn to spell licence, construct a sentence, and understand the difference between their, there, and they’re, perhaps your father would take the trouble to help you.