Parking Ticket Appeal
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James_N

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3,302 posts

263 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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Hi All,

I have received a parking ticket, issued by the local council for an on street parking violation. I will try and post a link via google maps:

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.8058039,-2.112166,...

Now this small side street has a specific marked out waiting bays for taxi's, and states on the sign next to the parking bay no waiting at any time apart from taxis.

Before that marked out bay, is double yellow lines, which is a popular park up with disabled blue badge holders, as its not far to walk to the shops just behind that street, which is what i was doing. I parked just before the marked out taxi rank, displaying blue badges there, as i have done for years, when i needed to visit that part of town.

I have now been hit for the first time with a parking ticket, which seems strange as i have always parked there and not once received any tickets.

I know double yellows aren't an automatic right to park anywhere as a disabled person, but i have seen others park there as well and again, never a problem.

Do i have grounds for an appeal? I think its a rather unfair ticket, as its in a small side street, not inconveniencing anyone, and no parking rules there have changed recently, so the ticket, was somewhat of a surprise.

If i have to pay, fair enough. its only £35, i thought i would just post here and ask first.

Thank you

jdizz

403 posts

233 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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You parked illegally for years, and now you've been caught, pay it, move on and use actual parking bays in future.

Edited by jdizz on Thursday 17th September 12:56

James_N

Original Poster:

3,302 posts

263 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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jdizz said:
You parked illegally for years, and now you've been caught, pay it and move on.
Why am i parked Illegally?

gshughes

1,347 posts

284 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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James_N said:
Hi All,

I have received a parking ticket, issued by the local council for an on street parking violation. I will try and post a link via google maps:

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.8058039,-2.112166,...

Now this small side street has a specific marked out waiting bays for taxi's, and states on the sign next to the parking bay no waiting at any time apart from taxis.

Before that marked out bay, is double yellow lines, which is a popular park up with disabled blue badge holders, as its not far to walk to the shops just behind that street, which is what i was doing. I parked just before the marked out taxi rank, displaying blue badges there, as i have done for years, when i needed to visit that part of town.

I have now been hit for the first time with a parking ticket, which seems strange as i have always parked there and not once received any tickets.

I know double yellows aren't an automatic right to park anywhere as a disabled person, but i have seen others park there as well and again, never a problem.

Do i have grounds for an appeal? I think its a rather unfair ticket, as its in a small side street, not inconveniencing anyone, and no parking rules there have changed recently, so the ticket, was somewhat of a surprise.

If i have to pay, fair enough. its only £35, i thought i would just post here and ask first.

Thank you
My wife has a blue badge and the legislation I have read states that it is not allowed to park on double yellows with 'no loading' markings (short perpendicular yellow lines on the curb) and ok to park on those that don't have them, so I suggest you check, take some photos and if applicable appeal with reference to the relevant part of legislation.

jdizz

403 posts

233 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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James_N said:
Before that marked out bay, is double yellow lines, which is a popular park up with disabled blue badge holders, as its not far to walk to the shops just behind that street, which is what i was doing.
You parked on double yellows?

James_N

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3,302 posts

263 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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jdizz said:
You parked on double yellows?
With a blue badge

James_N

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3,302 posts

263 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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gshughes said:
My wife has a blue badge and the legislation I have read states that it is not allowed to park on double yellows with 'no loading' markings (short perpendicular yellow lines on the curb) and ok to park on those that don't have them, so I suggest you check, take some photos and if applicable appeal with reference to the relevant part of legislation.
Nothing about loading or unloading. There is signage applicable to the taxi rank stating no waiting apart from taxi's but no signage other that that applicable to the rest of the road. thank you

jdizz

403 posts

233 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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James_N said:
I know double yellows aren't an automatic right to park anywhere as a disabled person, but i have seen others park there as well and again, never a problem.
Answered your own question, just because other people have been doing it for years and haven't been caught, doesn't make it right.

Pica-Pica

16,571 posts

113 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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James_N said:
jdizz said:
You parked on double yellows?
With a blue badge
..and? They are still double yellows.

James_N

Original Poster:

3,302 posts

263 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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jdizz said:
Answered your own question, just because other people have been doing it for years and haven't been caught, doesn't make it right.
Where did i say it did? As far as i'm aware, i'm allowed to park on double yellows as long as i'm not causing an obstruction (I wasn't) and as long as there is no other signage dictating otherwise. I'm not saying because others have done it, i'm right but they obviously have the same interpretation of the rules as i do. Not causing an obstruction on double yellows and no other signage = OK to park there?

James_N

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3,302 posts

263 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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Pica-Pica said:
..and? They are still double yellows.
Yes, and you can park on double yellows with a blue badge!

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Yellow lines
Badge holders may park on single or double yellow lines for up to 3 hours, but in general not where there are restrictions on loading or unloading – indicated by yellow kerb dashes and / or signs on plates. You may wish to check whether a particular local council has chosen to exempt Blue Badge holders from this restriction.

There is signage relating to the taxi parking bay, but nothing else and i wasn't parked in the taxi parking (obviously!)

geeks

11,639 posts

168 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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Pica-Pica said:
James_N said:
jdizz said:
You parked on double yellows?
With a blue badge
..and? They are still double yellows.
From https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-blu...

Yellow lines
Badge holders may park on single or double yellow lines for up to 3 hours, but in general not where there are restrictions on loading or unloading – indicated by yellow kerb dashes and / or signs on plates. You may wish to check whether a particular local council has chosen to exempt Blue Badge holders from this restriction.

Where local schemes apply, such as those that apply in parts of central London, you should check the rules for that area. You are not entitled to park on yellow lines in off-street car parks.

You must display the Blue Badge and the blue parking clock showing the quarter hour period during which you arrived. You must wait for at least one hour after a previous period of parking before you can park the same vehicle in the same road or part of a road on the same day.

p4cks

7,494 posts

228 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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Why would you waste your time here asking questions?

The back of the PCN will have details on regarding how to make an appeal. If you were a Blue Badge holder, and it was being used legitimately, and the council acknowledge this, your appeal will be upheld.

If any of that information isn't provided, or isn't available as evidence, I'd get your wallet out and then find somewhere else to park.

geeks

11,639 posts

168 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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James_N said:
Pica-Pica said:
..and? They are still double yellows.
Yes, and you can park on double yellows with a blue badge!

/edit

Yellow lines
Badge holders may park on single or double yellow lines for up to 3 hours, but in general not where there are restrictions on loading or unloading – indicated by yellow kerb dashes and / or signs on plates. You may wish to check whether a particular local council has chosen to exempt Blue Badge holders from this restriction.

There is signage relating to the taxi parking bay, but nothing else and i wasn't parked in the taxi parking (obviously!)
Did you also put the clock on the dash with the badge? I know a couple of BB holders caught out by this!

jdizz

403 posts

233 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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You obviously know the answer then! So why have you come on here asking a question you know the answer to, then arguing the toss? Strange man.

James_N

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3,302 posts

263 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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geeks said:
Did you also put the clock on the dash with the badge? I know a couple of BB holders caught out by this!
Yes always put the clock on smile

Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

186 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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Is the violation actually for parking on double yellows?

James_N

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263 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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jdizz said:
/angry strange man.
Not really. I'm quite the opposite. I came on here asking for advice, as i have done in the past, as i am not up on every law and regulation and wanted to know if i had missed something obvious. Not hard to understand is it?


James_N

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Thursday 17th September 2020
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Stay in Bed Instead said:
Is the violation actually for parking on double yellows?
I think so, i cant see what else it would be for however, the ticket has gone missing, i only have the ticket number to go off!

jdizz

403 posts

233 months

Thursday 17th September 2020
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James_N said:
Stay in Bed Instead said:
Is the violation actually for parking on double yellows?
I think so, i cant see what else it would be for however, the ticket has gone missing, i only have the ticket number to go off!
....the plot thickens....