The future of speeding...
Discussion
Since lock down I and many have noticed speeding idiots who think because the roads are quieter they can drive as fast as they like.
I was doing essential driving around the country and every road I went on had damage, debris or other evidence of collisions. Every roundabout had smashed signs, street and/or traffic lights taken out, bent barriers, tyre marks leading off the tarmac into the centre or outside and I didn't drive for more than a few miles at the speed limit before being caught up by and overtaken by proof of Darwinian theories.
We all know speed cameras are useless and only reduce speeding fifty yards to and from them. Average speed cameras on main roads turn by roads and back roads into rat runs of dangerous drivers (most too stupid to realise that racing lines on country lanes is suicidal). The Police don't have the resources to cope and when speed traps are set thanks to (anti)social media posts about it speeding drivers take alternative routes. There have been a few unmarked cars driving about at the speed limit issuing tickets or warning letters to speeding drivers and dash camera campaigns where law abiding drivers send video of dangerous drivers to the Police and drivers have been prosecuted based on the video evidence from the public.
But what is the future of speeding?
A lot of people are paranoid about the NHS track and trace app'. Even though I get an email from Google every month telling me where I have been (or at least where my phone has been). If you have Google map or a similar navigation tool on your phone it knows (mostly) what the speed limit is and how fast you are going all the time.
Could the NHS track and trace profile be combined with your navigation app' by the DVLA and/or Police to monitor, issue warnings and/or FPN's to drivers who break the speed limit on a regular basis? Obviously you could simply turn your phone off but unless you can take the battery out that might not work or a simple immobiliser connected to your phone so the app' knows who the driver (owner/registered keeper) is and it won't start without it would bypass any attempt to drive without a tracker.
With newer cars having such technology installed combined with tools like "road assist" your car could be the one that informs the authorities that you are speeding. Maybe have a GPS governor so you can't break the speed limit, go into limp mode or shut down completely until the Police turn up if you are driving dangerously.
This is a little bit Orwellian but one of the many lessons lock down has taught us is that some people are too selfish to be allowed on the road. Especially while the NHS is at breaking point due to the reason for the lock down in the first place. The last thing they need is the aftermath of another Darwinist running out of talent and using a tree instead of brakes.
What do you think?
I was doing essential driving around the country and every road I went on had damage, debris or other evidence of collisions. Every roundabout had smashed signs, street and/or traffic lights taken out, bent barriers, tyre marks leading off the tarmac into the centre or outside and I didn't drive for more than a few miles at the speed limit before being caught up by and overtaken by proof of Darwinian theories.
We all know speed cameras are useless and only reduce speeding fifty yards to and from them. Average speed cameras on main roads turn by roads and back roads into rat runs of dangerous drivers (most too stupid to realise that racing lines on country lanes is suicidal). The Police don't have the resources to cope and when speed traps are set thanks to (anti)social media posts about it speeding drivers take alternative routes. There have been a few unmarked cars driving about at the speed limit issuing tickets or warning letters to speeding drivers and dash camera campaigns where law abiding drivers send video of dangerous drivers to the Police and drivers have been prosecuted based on the video evidence from the public.
But what is the future of speeding?
A lot of people are paranoid about the NHS track and trace app'. Even though I get an email from Google every month telling me where I have been (or at least where my phone has been). If you have Google map or a similar navigation tool on your phone it knows (mostly) what the speed limit is and how fast you are going all the time.
Could the NHS track and trace profile be combined with your navigation app' by the DVLA and/or Police to monitor, issue warnings and/or FPN's to drivers who break the speed limit on a regular basis? Obviously you could simply turn your phone off but unless you can take the battery out that might not work or a simple immobiliser connected to your phone so the app' knows who the driver (owner/registered keeper) is and it won't start without it would bypass any attempt to drive without a tracker.
With newer cars having such technology installed combined with tools like "road assist" your car could be the one that informs the authorities that you are speeding. Maybe have a GPS governor so you can't break the speed limit, go into limp mode or shut down completely until the Police turn up if you are driving dangerously.
This is a little bit Orwellian but one of the many lessons lock down has taught us is that some people are too selfish to be allowed on the road. Especially while the NHS is at breaking point due to the reason for the lock down in the first place. The last thing they need is the aftermath of another Darwinist running out of talent and using a tree instead of brakes.
What do you think?
Liquid Knight said:
Since lock down I and many have noticed speeding idiots who think because the roads are quieter they can drive as fast as they like.
I was doing essential driving around the country and every road I went on had damage, debris or other evidence of collisions. Every roundabout had smashed signs, street and/or traffic lights taken out, bent barriers, tyre marks leading off the tarmac into the centre or outside and I didn't drive for more than a few miles at the speed limit before being caught up by and overtaken by proof of Darwinian theories.
We all know speed cameras are useless and only reduce speeding fifty yards to and from them. Average speed cameras on main roads turn by roads and back roads into rat runs of dangerous drivers (most too stupid to realise that racing lines on country lanes is suicidal). The Police don't have the resources to cope and when speed traps are set thanks to (anti)social media posts about it speeding drivers take alternative routes. There have been a few unmarked cars driving about at the speed limit issuing tickets or warning letters to speeding drivers and dash camera campaigns where law abiding drivers send video of dangerous drivers to the Police and drivers have been prosecuted based on the video evidence from the public.
But what is the future of speeding?
A lot of people are paranoid about the NHS track and trace app'. Even though I get an email from Google every month telling me where I have been (or at least where my phone has been). If you have Google map or a similar navigation tool on your phone it knows (mostly) what the speed limit is and how fast you are going all the time.
Could the NHS track and trace profile be combined with your navigation app' by the DVLA and/or Police to monitor, issue warnings and/or FPN's to drivers who break the speed limit on a regular basis? Obviously you could simply turn your phone off but unless you can take the battery out that might not work or a simple immobiliser connected to your phone so the app' knows who the driver (owner/registered keeper) is and it won't start without it would bypass any attempt to drive without a tracker.
With newer cars having such technology installed combined with tools like "road assist" your car could be the one that informs the authorities that you are speeding. Maybe have a GPS governor so you can't break the speed limit, go into limp mode or shut down completely until the Police turn up if you are driving dangerously.
This is a little bit Orwellian but one of the many lessons lock down has taught us is that some people are too selfish to be allowed on the road. Especially while the NHS is at breaking point due to the reason for the lock down in the first place. The last thing they need is the aftermath of another Darwinist running out of talent and using a tree instead of brakes.
What do you think?
Excellent thanks for the laugh I was doing essential driving around the country and every road I went on had damage, debris or other evidence of collisions. Every roundabout had smashed signs, street and/or traffic lights taken out, bent barriers, tyre marks leading off the tarmac into the centre or outside and I didn't drive for more than a few miles at the speed limit before being caught up by and overtaken by proof of Darwinian theories.
We all know speed cameras are useless and only reduce speeding fifty yards to and from them. Average speed cameras on main roads turn by roads and back roads into rat runs of dangerous drivers (most too stupid to realise that racing lines on country lanes is suicidal). The Police don't have the resources to cope and when speed traps are set thanks to (anti)social media posts about it speeding drivers take alternative routes. There have been a few unmarked cars driving about at the speed limit issuing tickets or warning letters to speeding drivers and dash camera campaigns where law abiding drivers send video of dangerous drivers to the Police and drivers have been prosecuted based on the video evidence from the public.
But what is the future of speeding?
A lot of people are paranoid about the NHS track and trace app'. Even though I get an email from Google every month telling me where I have been (or at least where my phone has been). If you have Google map or a similar navigation tool on your phone it knows (mostly) what the speed limit is and how fast you are going all the time.
Could the NHS track and trace profile be combined with your navigation app' by the DVLA and/or Police to monitor, issue warnings and/or FPN's to drivers who break the speed limit on a regular basis? Obviously you could simply turn your phone off but unless you can take the battery out that might not work or a simple immobiliser connected to your phone so the app' knows who the driver (owner/registered keeper) is and it won't start without it would bypass any attempt to drive without a tracker.
With newer cars having such technology installed combined with tools like "road assist" your car could be the one that informs the authorities that you are speeding. Maybe have a GPS governor so you can't break the speed limit, go into limp mode or shut down completely until the Police turn up if you are driving dangerously.
This is a little bit Orwellian but one of the many lessons lock down has taught us is that some people are too selfish to be allowed on the road. Especially while the NHS is at breaking point due to the reason for the lock down in the first place. The last thing they need is the aftermath of another Darwinist running out of talent and using a tree instead of brakes.
What do you think?
monthou said:
Liquid Knight said:
Could the NHS track and trace profile be combined with your navigation app' by the DVLA and/or Police to monitor, issue warnings and/or FPN's to drivers who break the speed limit on a regular basis?
Can the app tell when you're driving?People are unlocking cars with their phones now so it's not difficult to imagine the next step.
Liquid Knight said:
monthou said:
Liquid Knight said:
Could the NHS track and trace profile be combined with your navigation app' by the DVLA and/or Police to monitor, issue warnings and/or FPN's to drivers who break the speed limit on a regular basis?
Can the app tell when you're driving?People are unlocking cars with their phones now so it's not difficult to imagine the next step.
Tighten up on the 30mph zones and get rid of the pointless 50mph segments created just to bring in revenue and you might have an argument, however I've driven all over during lockdown and I haven't seen evidence of speeding and accidents everywhere. A broken roundabout sign means just that and only that, a sign is broken
I’ve just returned from a few days away. 1,000 miles, Suffolk to Co Durham and back, with some day trips in between. Saw one mangled car in all that time, at the bottom of a small valley, in a beck near Fylingdales on the N York moors.
I certainly didn’t witness the carnage reported by the OP.
I certainly didn’t witness the carnage reported by the OP.
sociopath said:
Tighten up on the 30mph zones and get rid of the pointless 50mph segments created just to bring in revenue and you might have an argument, however I've driven all over during lockdown and I haven't seen evidence of speeding and accidents everywhere. A broken roundabout sign means just that and only that, a sign is broken
This. Neither have I seen any evidence of reduced traffic since around May. As for the NHS app, aside from it not being mandatory, unless someone buys me a new phone I won’t be having it.....
Liquid Knight said:
That's where it being connected to the car comes in.
People are unlocking cars with their phones now so it's not difficult to imagine the next step.
As long as it can't tell you're driving a Mk1 Focus or riding an '02 vfr I'm not too worried.People are unlocking cars with their phones now so it's not difficult to imagine the next step.
I can always add a tinfoil layer to my helmet.
sociopath said:
Tighten up on the 30mph zones and get rid of the pointless 50mph segments created just to bring in revenue and you might have an argument, however I've driven all over during lockdown and I haven't seen evidence of speeding and accidents everywhere. A broken roundabout sign means just that and only that, a sign is broken
People like OP see one accident and some debris and form an opinion that "OH IT WAS ALL OVER EVERYWHERE I WENT!!!"delete the apps that track you.
Speeding will inevitably become impossible for normal people in autonomous Google pods and Amazon flying cars etc.
Obviously that's a few years away yet but...
Road pricing and tracking of new cars is coming along with nagging speedos, restrictors and automatic fines for transgressors.
Roadside cameras (expensive to install etc) will eventually disappear as the silent majority are tracked and traced on every journey.
Only the powerfully built PH directors will be able to wheel out an old gas guzzler from the barn,
pay the punitive insurance for having the temerity to own such a vehicle,
and wind it up for one last swansong before permanent retirement to the motoring museum.
Obviously that's a few years away yet but...
Road pricing and tracking of new cars is coming along with nagging speedos, restrictors and automatic fines for transgressors.
Roadside cameras (expensive to install etc) will eventually disappear as the silent majority are tracked and traced on every journey.
Only the powerfully built PH directors will be able to wheel out an old gas guzzler from the barn,
pay the punitive insurance for having the temerity to own such a vehicle,
and wind it up for one last swansong before permanent retirement to the motoring museum.
peterperkins said:
Speeding will inevitably become impossible for normal people in autonomous Google pods and Amazon flying cars etc.
Obviously that's a few years away yet but...
Road pricing and tracking of new cars is coming along with nagging speedos, restrictors and automatic fines for transgressors.
Roadside cameras (expensive to install etc) will eventually disappear as the silent majority are tracked and traced on every journey.
Only the powerfully built PH directors will be able to wheel out an old gas guzzler from the barn,
pay the punitive insurance for having the temerity to own such a vehicle,
and wind it up for one last swansong before permanent retirement to the motoring museum.
someone will always work a way around it.Obviously that's a few years away yet but...
Road pricing and tracking of new cars is coming along with nagging speedos, restrictors and automatic fines for transgressors.
Roadside cameras (expensive to install etc) will eventually disappear as the silent majority are tracked and traced on every journey.
Only the powerfully built PH directors will be able to wheel out an old gas guzzler from the barn,
pay the punitive insurance for having the temerity to own such a vehicle,
and wind it up for one last swansong before permanent retirement to the motoring museum.
in recent years the roads have got slower not fsster. might still be a number of beligerent speeders about but IME on my daily commute, im more likely to get held up by some dawdler and thats town roads in general getting slower. and my commute is against the general traffic flow so its not increasing traffic but a change in behaviour.
but imo its a symptom of worsening driving standards eg s lot of the dawdlers are daydreaming or on phone etc. motorways are getting really bad but not with volume of traffic but poor lane discipline and behaviour in general. being a regular long distance driver a few years back it was generally easy to make decent progress (70mph honest), except in peak hours now its a rarity to maintain 70mph for more than a couple of minutes unless very late at night. mostly because of bellends lane hogging and poor lane discipline in general.
i noticed few speeders in lockdown but not like the op.
but imo its a symptom of worsening driving standards eg s lot of the dawdlers are daydreaming or on phone etc. motorways are getting really bad but not with volume of traffic but poor lane discipline and behaviour in general. being a regular long distance driver a few years back it was generally easy to make decent progress (70mph honest), except in peak hours now its a rarity to maintain 70mph for more than a couple of minutes unless very late at night. mostly because of bellends lane hogging and poor lane discipline in general.
i noticed few speeders in lockdown but not like the op.
EU-mandated 'voluntary' speed limiters in new cars from 2022, with the aim of making them mandatory at all times once they've been 'accepted' by the public by the 'soft launch' approach.
OP will be very happy to be stuck in a dawdling train of vehicles with no-one able to overtake, it seems.
OP will be very happy to be stuck in a dawdling train of vehicles with no-one able to overtake, it seems.
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