NIP advice, 102 in a 70
NIP advice, 102 in a 70
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tight fart

Original Poster:

3,580 posts

302 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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My sons been caught doing 102 in a 70, he's pleading guilty but has been advised by his mates to attend court.
Is that the best advice, and would he not be asked to attend if likely to be banned?

LosingGrip

8,850 posts

188 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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I think AGTLaw (I've just had a complete mind blank on his username!) says don't attend court. I'm sure he'll be along with his advice. I'd take it 100%.


SS2.

14,712 posts

267 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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An early guilty plea would help reduce the penalty.

Attending in person would give them an easier opportunity to ban your son. Personally, I wouldn't be there unless my attendance was ordered.

AGT's the man.

Terminator X

20,570 posts

233 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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tight fart said:
My sons been caught doing 102 in a 70, he's pleading guilty but has been advised by his mates to attend court.
Is that the best advice, and would he not be asked to attend if likely to be banned?
One day shy of 6 months you / he will get a court summons. That's the way they roll.

TX.

Edit - I have been banned and didn't attend so is it really the case that not attending is a good idea?

Jimmy Recard

17,550 posts

208 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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It's just unnecessary, as far as I know. I have heard from people who would know that it doesn't get you a more lenient punishment and that the best/only option is to put in a guilty plea

un1corn

2,143 posts

166 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Im pretty certain at 32mph over the limit, and the fact it's a 3 figure sum, will mean a court summons anyway? The speed is too far over the limit than to just deal with it all by post, as a ban will be something that could be considered.

Turn7

25,713 posts

250 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Isnt 3 figures automatic ban ?

RSTurboPaul

13,089 posts

287 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Terminator X said:
tight fart said:
My sons been caught doing 102 in a 70, he's pleading guilty but has been advised by his mates to attend court.
Is that the best advice, and would he not be asked to attend if likely to be banned?
One day shy of 6 months you / he will get a court summons. That's the way they roll.

TX.

Edit - I have been banned and didn't attend so is it really the case that not attending is a good idea?
lol

I can also attest to this.

LosingGrip

8,850 posts

188 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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un1corn said:
Im pretty certain at 32mph over the limit, and the fact it's a 3 figure sum, will mean a court summons anyway? The speed is too far over the limit than to just deal with it all by post, as a ban will be something that could be considered.
Can plead guilty by post.

paradigital

1,100 posts

181 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Turn7 said:
Isnt 3 figures automatic ban ?
As far as I’m aware there is no such thing as an automatic ban.

kestral

2,229 posts

236 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Don't go to court the Magistrates will be well pissed off.

Wasting time on a plea of guilty for a simple speeding by a noble and honourable defendant wishing to demonstrate his remorse will not impress them.

The Magistrates need all court time for serious criminal matters.

Turn7

25,713 posts

250 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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paradigital said:
Turn7 said:
Isnt 3 figures automatic ban ?
As far as I’m aware there is no such thing as an automatic ban.
ok then. "automatic" as in 95% certain......

SS2.

14,712 posts

267 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Turn7 said:
paradigital said:
Turn7 said:
Isnt 3 figures automatic ban ?
As far as I’m aware there is no such thing as an automatic ban.
ok then. "automatic" as in 95% certain......
No, not that either.

Turn7

25,713 posts

250 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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SS2. said:
Turn7 said:
paradigital said:
Turn7 said:
Isnt 3 figures automatic ban ?
As far as I’m aware there is no such thing as an automatic ban.
ok then. "automatic" as in 95% certain......
No, not that either.
oh ok.....thought it was.

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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kestral said:
Don't go to court the Magistrates will be well pissed off.
In line with most of your posts

The Op may well have no choice in the matter, certainly don't volunteer unless summoned

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Terminator X said:
One day shy of 6 months you / he will get a court summons. That's the way they roll.

TX.

Edit - I have been banned and didn't attend so is it really the case that not attending is a good idea?
Not attending can only help the possibility of not getting disqualified, as courts usually prefer someone to be there when the sentence is a ban to prevent the possibility of them driving whilst disqualified during the time before they find out and landing themselves with a whole new world of pain

agtlaw

7,402 posts

235 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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LosingGrip said:
un1corn said:
Im pretty certain at 32mph over the limit, and the fact it's a 3 figure sum, will mean a court summons anyway? The speed is too far over the limit than to just deal with it all by post, as a ban will be something that could be considered.
Can plead guilty by post.
It’s 2020, so forget about getting a summons.

Also, use the makeaplea website rather than “plead guilty by post.”

If the preferred outcome is points then deal with the SJPN online.

To elect a court hearing is to avoid one of only two opportunities to dodge the ban hammer. Only idiots elect court hearings when the case can be favourably concluded without attending court.

The poster quoted obviously doesn’t understand the 2020 legal system.

agtlaw

7,402 posts

235 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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tight fart said:
My sons been caught doing 102 in a 70, he's pleading guilty but has been advised by his mates to attend court.
1) Is that the best advice,
2) and would he be asked to attend if likely to be banned?
1) No, unless he prefers a ban then that’s bad advice.
2) Told rather than asked.


tight fart

Original Poster:

3,580 posts

302 months

Thursday 15th October 2020
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Thanks agtlaw, I’ve passed your comments over, he doesn’t like listening to dad.

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Friday 16th October 2020
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How long ago did he pass?