Vehicle Registration Offences (Penalty Points) Bill
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A new bill was presented to the HoC a few minutes ago.
The Bill (a Ten Minute Rule Bill) aims to amend the punishments for keeping or driving a vehicle with an illegal number plate, or without a number plate. It seeks to add three penalty points to an offender’s licence in addition to the usual £100 (rising to £1,000) fine.
No one spoke in opposition and it has a second hearing now planned for next month.
It was presented from the angle of tackling bikers with missing/small rear plates but will be interesting to see what impact it has on the number of vehicles not displaying front plates as that seems to be becoming more common, unless I'm just noticing it more?
The Bill (a Ten Minute Rule Bill) aims to amend the punishments for keeping or driving a vehicle with an illegal number plate, or without a number plate. It seeks to add three penalty points to an offender’s licence in addition to the usual £100 (rising to £1,000) fine.
No one spoke in opposition and it has a second hearing now planned for next month.
It was presented from the angle of tackling bikers with missing/small rear plates but will be interesting to see what impact it has on the number of vehicles not displaying front plates as that seems to be becoming more common, unless I'm just noticing it more?
PorkInsider said:
A new bill was presented to the HoC a few minutes ago.
The Bill (a Ten Minute Rule Bill) aims to amend the punishments for keeping or driving a vehicle with an illegal number plate, or without a number plate. It seeks to add three penalty points to an offender’s licence in addition to the usual £100 (rising to £1,000) fine.
No one spoke in opposition and it has a second hearing now planned for next month.
It was presented from the angle of tackling bikers with missing/small rear plates but will be interesting to see what impact it has on the number of vehicles not displaying front plates as that seems to be becoming more common, unless I'm just noticing it more?
Think you're just noticing it more. Large sports bikes very often have smaller plates - I'd say much more than cars without front plates.The Bill (a Ten Minute Rule Bill) aims to amend the punishments for keeping or driving a vehicle with an illegal number plate, or without a number plate. It seeks to add three penalty points to an offender’s licence in addition to the usual £100 (rising to £1,000) fine.
No one spoke in opposition and it has a second hearing now planned for next month.
It was presented from the angle of tackling bikers with missing/small rear plates but will be interesting to see what impact it has on the number of vehicles not displaying front plates as that seems to be becoming more common, unless I'm just noticing it more?
Bad.
It is not a road safety issue.
There is not a problem with lack of detection or avoidance of ANPR.
This is not in the public interest.
Those who say "good" do so purely on a matter of taste.
We have enough legislation, penalties and taxing of the motorist. Our freedoms are already restricted far too much.
We on PH should be voicing every opportunity to oppose this, whether you think silly plates are tasteful or not.
It is not a road safety issue.
There is not a problem with lack of detection or avoidance of ANPR.
This is not in the public interest.
Those who say "good" do so purely on a matter of taste.
We have enough legislation, penalties and taxing of the motorist. Our freedoms are already restricted far too much.
We on PH should be voicing every opportunity to oppose this, whether you think silly plates are tasteful or not.
Jarcy said:
Durzel said:
Not having a plate or having an illegible one could make it harder to identify a vehicle involved in some sort of criminal activity, or simply a crash.
How would 3 points rectify that situation?It's bad...
3 points for driving with say a number plate cracked that day by some twerp reversing into it?
Remember you now can't get them (in theory) without providing ID and Logbook or equivalent documents
Points should be reserved for offences that have some sort of safety effect.
Even not having a seatbelt doesn't carry points!
As always it will be the (mostly) law abiding majority that get caught for this stuff, the scrotes will run rings around the police as usual, and will be left alone as it's "too difficult"
3 points for driving with say a number plate cracked that day by some twerp reversing into it?
Remember you now can't get them (in theory) without providing ID and Logbook or equivalent documents
Points should be reserved for offences that have some sort of safety effect.
Even not having a seatbelt doesn't carry points!
As always it will be the (mostly) law abiding majority that get caught for this stuff, the scrotes will run rings around the police as usual, and will be left alone as it's "too difficult"
Jarcy said:
Bad.
It is not a road safety issue.
There is not a problem with lack of detection or avoidance of ANPR.
This is not in the public interest.
Those who say "good" do so purely on a matter of taste.
We have enough legislation, penalties and taxing of the motorist. Our freedoms are already restricted far too much.
We on PH should be voicing every opportunity to oppose this, whether you think silly plates are tasteful or not.
You don't have the freedom to not use an illegal, or have no, plate now.It is not a road safety issue.
There is not a problem with lack of detection or avoidance of ANPR.
This is not in the public interest.
Those who say "good" do so purely on a matter of taste.
We have enough legislation, penalties and taxing of the motorist. Our freedoms are already restricted far too much.
We on PH should be voicing every opportunity to oppose this, whether you think silly plates are tasteful or not.
It isn't new law, it's a change in available sentencing presumably because they believe that the current penalties are insufficient to persuade a large enough number who won't bother complying with the current sentencing.
The proposed measures are presumably in order to change that balance.
Plymo said:
It's bad...
As always it will be the (mostly) law abiding majority that get caught for this stuff, the scrotes will run rings around the police as usual, and will be left alone as it's "too difficult"
No, Durzel has pointed out that the scrotes will nonetheless now run legal plates for fear of licence endorsement, despite their illegal activities or their desire to flee the scene of a crash.As always it will be the (mostly) law abiding majority that get caught for this stuff, the scrotes will run rings around the police as usual, and will be left alone as it's "too difficult"
Jarcy said:
No, Durzel has pointed out that the scrotes will nonetheless now run legal plates for fear of licence endorsement, despite their illegal activities or their desire to flee the scene of a crash.
They will definitely be sweating that it will add to the ban they are already under, and the fact that they have no insurance, and it's not their car (better fine the original owner too to ensure the message hits home), and that they've run someone over...twice and resisted arrest...Forums | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff