My mate got away with it... can anyone explain?
My mate got away with it... can anyone explain?
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Cl4rkyPH

Original Poster:

321 posts

76 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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I was a passenger in a car with 3 others coming home from Heathrow back in January, late at night.

The driver was blasting down the M25 at 90-100mph. Despite us all encouraging him to slow down, he didn’t, we were all tired from our trip so just let him get on with it.

I was in the back of the car and saw one of the new yellow speed cameras (pictured below for clarity) coming up quickly on the left hand side, I saw it last minute and I didn’t have a chance to warn him and he zoomed on past it.

I instinctively looked over my shoulder, through the back window, just in time to see the camera give out two obvious bright flashes. All of us lit up like a Dutch brothel, the driver poo’d himself and slowed down and we continued back home, at the speed limit.

We reckon he was doing 90-95mph.

There is NO DOUBT in my mind that he was caught by that camera, all four of us saw it flash, and we discussed it all the way home. We were convinced he was done for.

9 months on and he hasn’t heard a peep! The car is his and registered at his long-term address.

Has he got away with it or can he still expect a letter?

If he has indeed got away with it, how?!


anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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1. He got away with it.

2. Because reasons, but why care what they were? Most of us have probably triggered a camera at some point but heard nothing further. I last did that last month.

Despite what the perpetually gloomy of PH will tell you, speed limit enforcement is not some militaristically efficient process, and most speeding goes either undetected or unpunished.


Speed Badger

3,714 posts

146 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Often the 70mph limit is not enforced by the cameras. They are turned on periodically but they catch so many people that it creates massive backlogs in the department that deals with it. Also might be NFA'd due to poor film quality, poor lighting, anything like that.

p4cks

7,494 posts

228 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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As others have already mentioned it could be a poor quality image, the DVLA have not got back to them in sufficient time (their record keeping is appalling), a plate misread or the vehicle is not registered to anyone (which can also happen more often than you'd think).


Sheepshanks

40,990 posts

148 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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My boss got a NIP for 102 on his way to Heathrow - he'd been held up in an jam then put is foot down to catch his flight. He replied to the NIP and never heard any more about it.

Someone told him the ticket office is slammed, but it seemed odd to me that they wouldn't pick out the big ones. He was already on 6 points too.

ScoobyChris

2,307 posts

231 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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I triggered a camera on the m4 in Bristol while the variable limits were off and heard nothing. I then triggered it again a month or so later in similar circumstances and received a nice letter offering me 3 points and £100 fine.

Not sure if they only target repeat offenders or I slipped through the first time.

Chris

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Sheepshanks said:
My boss got a NIP for 102 on his way to Heathrow - he'd been held up in an jam then put is foot down to catch his flight. He replied to the NIP and never heard any more about it.

Someone told him the ticket office is slammed, but it seemed odd to me that they wouldn't pick out the big ones. He was already on 6 points too.
Depends how long ago, can take up to 7/8 months at the moment before he actually receives any paperwork

Sheepshanks

40,990 posts

148 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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martinbiz said:
Depends how long ago, can take up to 7/8 months at the moment before he actually receives any paperwork
Couple of years ago.

Steviesam

1,424 posts

163 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Sheepshanks said:
martinbiz said:
Depends how long ago, can take up to 7/8 months at the moment before he actually receives any paperwork
Couple of years ago.
If you are pulled over and reported for speeding (not given a fixed penalty), is there a time limit on them to get some sort of paperwork to you?

martinbiz

3,698 posts

174 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Steviesam said:
If you are pulled over and reported for speeding (not given a fixed penalty), is there a time limit on them to get some sort of paperwork to you?
6 months from date of offence to commence proceedings, but can be considerably longer before you see anything in the post, especially at the moment

jonwm

2,737 posts

143 months

Sunday 25th October 2020
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Coming back from Kent to the Midlands a few years ago I went through one on the M25 just after midnight, only me on the road and it lit the car up like a flood light, panicked for months but never hear anything, I was doing slightly over 100 I reckon when I looked.



Cl4rkyPH

Original Poster:

321 posts

76 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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Thanks guys, interesting responses!

Muzzer79

13,072 posts

216 months

Monday 26th October 2020
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I think there's plenty that get flashed but don't hear anything else.

A friend of a friend works in the Speed Camera dept of the local enforcement. They reckon they're just chucking loads of bona fide fines/points away each week because they don't have the staff to process them and they've reached the NIP time limit of 2 weeks to notify.

There's no priority system either - they don't pick out the really bad ones to make sure they get done.

I personally think some of the gantry cameras are set to flash and not process to scare people like it did the OP's friend - I'm sure he drove like Miss Daisy for a good while after that incident? That can be as effective as an actual prosecution.