eBay/PayPal scam
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Hi, I am advertising a vehicle on Autotrader for around £22,000 and after a few days I was alerted to the fact that it was being advertised on EBay for about £15,000 Buy It Now price. Someone copied all photos etc onto eBay. Well, clearly this person hasn’t got the vehicle so I decided to emailed l him from another email address and asked if I could view the vehicle, wondering what his reply would be. Well, you’ve guessed it, he was out of the country but if I would pay via PayPal using the “Pay After Delivery” system, he would deliver the vehicle to my house and I would have 7 days to reject it, if I wasn’t happy with it! Next he invited me to provide my PayPal account and address so he could “invite” me to join the PAD scheme. Needless to say I haven’t replied to his request! I reported the scam to EBay and got usual standard acknowledgment. Looking at “other items for sale from this seller” I notice several other cars where the scammer has repeated the same thing, offering them at a few thousand pounds below market value.
The e mail addresses that the scammer uses is ++++++@enmail.co.uk. (Yes, not a typo, it’s enmail).
I googled enmail but nothing comes up. Does anyone know what these e mail adddresses are? Is this a way of hiding your identity for the benefit of scammers?
As a matter of interest I looked at PayPal’s T’s and C’s and noted they exclude motor vehicles from their “Buy Back” policy which I assume includes PAD.
The e mail addresses that the scammer uses is ++++++@enmail.co.uk. (Yes, not a typo, it’s enmail).
I googled enmail but nothing comes up. Does anyone know what these e mail adddresses are? Is this a way of hiding your identity for the benefit of scammers?
As a matter of interest I looked at PayPal’s T’s and C’s and noted they exclude motor vehicles from their “Buy Back” policy which I assume includes PAD.
I reported a seller to eBay yesterday. I messaged the seller through eBay itself and he replied directly to my personal email account. eBay have no idea how he got my email. Very odd. I haven’t replied.
Im sure this ‘seller’ was planning same thing as your example. Car was significantly cheaper than it ought to have been. Advert has since been removed.
Im sure this ‘seller’ was planning same thing as your example. Car was significantly cheaper than it ought to have been. Advert has since been removed.
Mikee19 said:
If you browse regularly you will notice loads of these ads with cars too cheap to be true and usually an email address in the description. I report them but there are always loads of new adverts. eBay don't appear to be doing much to stop this.
Exactly this, loads of them, I browse the classics and I was forever reporting, stopped now, eBay aren't bothered, so nor am I sadly.Plus8 said:
Hi, I am advertising a vehicle on Autotrader for around £22,000 and after a few days I was alerted to the fact that it was being advertised on EBay for about £15,000 Buy It Now price. Someone copied all photos etc onto eBay. Well, clearly this person hasn’t got the vehicle so I decided to emailed l him from another email address and asked if I could view the vehicle, wondering what his reply would be. Well, you’ve guessed it, he was out of the country but if I would pay via PayPal using the “Pay After Delivery” system, he would deliver the vehicle to my house and I would have 7 days to reject it, if I wasn’t happy with it! Next he invited me to provide my PayPal account and address so he could “invite” me to join the PAD scheme. Needless to say I haven’t replied to his request! I reported the scam to EBay and got usual standard acknowledgment. Looking at “other items for sale from this seller” I notice several other cars where the scammer has repeated the same thing, offering them at a few thousand pounds below market value.
The e mail addresses that the scammer uses is ++++++@enmail.co.uk. (Yes, not a typo, it’s enmail).
I googled enmail but nothing comes up. Does anyone know what these e mail adddresses are? Is this a way of hiding your identity for the benefit of scammers?
As a matter of interest I looked at PayPal’s T’s and C’s and noted they exclude motor vehicles from their “Buy Back” policy which I assume includes PAD.
hit buy it now, and wait for delivery,The e mail addresses that the scammer uses is ++++++@enmail.co.uk. (Yes, not a typo, it’s enmail).
I googled enmail but nothing comes up. Does anyone know what these e mail adddresses are? Is this a way of hiding your identity for the benefit of scammers?
As a matter of interest I looked at PayPal’s T’s and C’s and noted they exclude motor vehicles from their “Buy Back” policy which I assume includes PAD.
it stops some other mug being robbed.
Hi yes exactly same thing happened to me, just advertised car on ebay then this guy used one of my photos and is selling it for far less. Same email as above same modus operandi. I have reported the account to ebay. Despite me blanking out my reg plate this con man has got those details and is sharing it with prospective buyers of his advert.
It's been going on for years and eBay seem powerless to stop it. I've been watching how many times an Avon Sunbeam Lotus has been listed and it must be well into the several hundreds now possibly thousands. As soon as it's reported and gets taken down , it reappears under a different username. The same picture and description each time but either buy it now at a ridiculously low price or auction and multiple listings.
I can't believe eBay don't have the technology to stop this and potential buyers don't spot it a mile off.
I can't believe eBay don't have the technology to stop this and potential buyers don't spot it a mile off.
) is the way.salty-nlv said:
But what I'm trying to understand the nature of the scam?
Are they getting deposits off people or people paying for the car without seeing it?
There's lot of variations on it but it usually means you send them money to an escrow account where your money is protected (WTF uses escrow in the UK apart from businesses). You can send them a deposit of a few thousand or the full amount.Are they getting deposits off people or people paying for the car without seeing it?
The escrow account is a fake account - UK Escrow Services PLC - anything to sound official, big and real.
They promise to ship the car to you FREE! As a mug you think oooh "free shipping!"
The seller says if you don't like the vehicle you can have a full refund. As a mug you think: "oooh just like shopping at Tesco!"
Truth is they may hook a few people who have sent them say £3k each before the ad is taken down.
eBay and most other platforms don't care as they get listing and advert fees (unless the scammer has paid using stolen credit cards).
2172cc said:
It's been going on for years and eBay seem powerless to stop it. I've been watching how many times an Avon Sunbeam Lotus has been listed and it must be well into the several hundreds now possibly thousands. As soon as it's reported and gets taken down , it reappears under a different username. The same picture and description each time but either buy it now at a ridiculously low price or auction and multiple listings.
I can't believe eBay don't have the technology to stop this and potential buyers don't spot it a mile off.
Seems bizarre to use such an odd and recognisable vehicle. Surely something anonymous would be better.I can't believe eBay don't have the technology to stop this and potential buyers don't spot it a mile off.
We laugh at these scams, but you do read of people being caught out.
Mikee19 said:
If you browse regularly you will notice loads of these ads with cars too cheap to be true and usually an email address in the description. I report them but there are always loads of new adverts. eBay don't appear to be doing much to stop this.
Yeah,These are mostly just 2 pictures in the gallery, and the second picture is an email.
You could go on reporting these for weeks, and still they keep popping up.
Edited by Register1 on Friday 29th January 19:16
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