Bad driving on roundabout - what offence?
Bad driving on roundabout - what offence?
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eniacs

Original Poster:

208 posts

169 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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Evening all,

Earlier I did some bad driving and moved lanes too late on a roundabout. Unfortunately there was an angry karen with a dash cam that shouted abuse and flashed and beeped me and family for the next mile.

I admit my driving was bad as I should have pulled into correct lane sooner. It is a simple three exit roundabout, I should have been in right lane to turn right. I realised (on the roundabout) and indicated and pulled across.

Assuming angry karen submits this to someone that cares - how long will my sentance be?

alfaspecial

1,193 posts

169 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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I doubt she would go to the police - particularly if the dashcam recorded HER shouting, swearing and gesticulating - whilst following you in what - no doubt - the police would feel would be an aggressive and intimidating way.

We all make mistakes, best policy is for the 'erroneous' driver to show an apologetic wave / smile. Most 'victims' would accept this IMHO.

Desiderata

2,738 posts

83 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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Are there definitely signposted lanes on the roundabut? Around here very few of the roundabouts have properly signposted lanes even though most people treat them as if they do. If they don't, then no offence actually committed as you haven't actually changed lanes. Even if there are properly signed lanes, it's not a crime to change lanes as long as long as you don't do it carelessly.

eniacs

Original Poster:

208 posts

169 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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Derata, there are two lanes on approach to the roundabout and then two on the roundabout until the first turn off where it goes to one lane on the roundabout.

Yes Alfa I think she was shouting "I have a dashcam", we ignored her so as not to escalate, I did sort of think, is the dashcam recording your tailgating of me 3 inches off the bumper too.

Pica-Pica

16,571 posts

113 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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The only punishment you will get is for using the name ‘Karen’.

eniacs

Original Poster:

208 posts

169 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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Sorry lol.

She was the definition of a karen though.

Pica-Pica

16,571 posts

113 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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eniacs said:
Sorry lol.

She was the definition of a karen though.
No place for stereotypes!
On your situation, I very much doubt the police will be interested. She will have calmed down (perhaps). Always assume people will make mistakes. Part of advanced driving is spotting people’s’ imminent mistakes before they make them. Have a look at some dash cam videos on You Tube, at least 50% are either the instigator of the error, or deliberately provoking a situation.

abzmike

11,985 posts

135 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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eniacs said:
Sorry lol.

She was the definition of a karen though.
Help us with the definition please. Is it having a dashcam, objecting to being cut up, or exchanging verbals with you ‘for a mile’?

gazza285

11,137 posts

237 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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No one will care.

Lopey

262 posts

127 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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Pica-Pica said:
No place for stereotypes!
Really? I thought this was PH?

rayny

2,348 posts

230 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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The sentence of this court is that you will be taken from here to the place from whence you came and there be kept in close confinement until the ninth day of November in the year of our lord 2020, and upon that day that you be taken to the place of execution and there hanged by the neck until you are dead. And may God have mercy upon your soul.

Alternatively, you will become a better driver because you will learn from this minor event.

g3org3y

22,462 posts

220 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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eniacs said:
Assuming angry karen submits this to someone that cares - how long will my sentance be?
Life long, featured on an 'bad driving vol34' YouTube video.

TVR1

5,478 posts

254 months

Saturday 7th November 2020
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Pop your right indicator on and go around again. Simples.

Kent Border Kenny

2,219 posts

89 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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eniacs said:
Sorry lol.

She was the definition of a karen though.
For letting you know that you were driving like a dick.

How so?

eniacs

Original Poster:

208 posts

169 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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Thanks for the replies so far.

I'm still surprised how angry one person can be over what I thought was a minor driving issue. I suppose I'm not thinking about her, I assume all drivers are sensible composed and well rested. Presumably she had a really bad day and I tipped her over the edge.

Kent Border Kenny

2,219 posts

89 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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eniacs said:
Thanks for the replies so far.

I'm still surprised how angry one person can be over what I thought was a minor driving issue. I suppose I'm not thinking about her, I assume all drivers are sensible composed and well rested. Presumably she had a really bad day and I tipped her over the edge.
Did you make an apologetic signal, a “sorry” wave or the like?

abzmike

11,985 posts

135 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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eniacs said:
Thanks for the replies so far.

I'm still surprised how angry one person can be over what I thought was a minor driving issue. I suppose I'm not thinking about her, I assume all drivers are sensible composed and well rested. Presumably she had a really bad day and I tipped her over the edge.
You thought it was a minor issue - From her perspective perhaps it wasn't. From having being wiped out in a similar incident last year I can understand how she felt. Reflecting on it as you are gives you an opportunity to avoid similar situations in future.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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Potential careless driving. Likelihood of anything at all ever being done about it?

loskie

7,094 posts

149 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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you probably interrupted her texting someone hence the irate behaviour

M22s

606 posts

178 months

Sunday 8th November 2020
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Can’t imagine you would hear anything if she did send it - the police recognise people make mistakes.