Dad's car after death
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Patrick Bateman

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13,163 posts

203 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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My dad died the other day so currently having to sort out everything just now.

Obviously I'll be phoning his insurance but what are the easiest/likely options in terms of being able to use the car/change the ownership etc.

From what I've read so far the insurance will be terminated on the death of the policy holder although not sure if there would be an option to change that to myself?

Any advice/experience would be appreciated, cheers.

Drclarke

1,201 posts

202 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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Firstly sorry to hear of your loss.

Secondly, ensure the car is insured for fire and theft.

If you want it changed over to you, the old policy will
cancel and you will have to take out a new one.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,040 posts

179 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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Patrick Bateman said:
From what I've read so far the insurance will be terminated on the death of the policy holder
Sorry to hear about you're dad.

The insurance will be terminated from when you tell them. If you're a driver on his policy, carry on driving it, it's fine. No insurance co expect car insurance to be at the front of your mind when you're dealing with your dad's death. In practise, you probably need to let them know within about 3 months. that would be reasonable. In reality, I doubt there would be an issue unless you get to renewal and then renew without telling them.

Deerfoot

5,240 posts

213 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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Sorry to hear of your loss, I lost my dad in 2007.

My Mum wanted his car gone, obviously people deal with things in different ways, she wanted it gone quickly.

I sold it to an Audi dealer who collected it on a flat bed within 36 hours of me contacting them. I cancelled the insurance and contacted the DVLA to inform them of the circumstances. Money was transferred immediately. It was an immaculate A6 Avant. I signed the V5 on his behalf with supporting documentation, a copy of the death certificate.

In hindsight I should’ve had it for myself but Mum wanted it gone so it went.

Patrick Bateman

Original Poster:

13,163 posts

203 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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I'm not on his policy but would my 'driving other cars' part of my policy cover it?

TwigtheWonderkid

49,040 posts

179 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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Patrick Bateman said:
I'm not on his policy but would my 'driving other cars' part of my policy cover it?
Almost certainly. Just check the Ts & Cs of your DOC. It might insist the car your driving has its own cover in place, so you'll need to put off telling his insurers in order to keep his policy live.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
The insurance will be terminated from when you tell them. If you're a driver on his policy, carry on driving it, it's fine.
If "the insured" has died you need to contact the insurance company asap. Don't just carry on driving and assume it will be OK.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,040 posts

179 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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rockin said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
The insurance will be terminated from when you tell them. If you're a driver on his policy, carry on driving it, it's fine.
If "the insured" has died you need to contact the insurance company asap. Don't just carry on driving and assume it will be OK.
But it will be. As it happens, OP isn't a driver on the policy so it's irrelevant. But seriously, an insurance company are not going to question a claim on a policy from an additional driver if the policyholder has died within the last few months. When someone's husband dies, no insurance co expect the wife to be calling them up whilst he's still warm because the car is insured in his name. The are fully aware that it's miles down the priority list.

Etretat

1,901 posts

251 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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Unfortunately the pollicy holder had died. The contract with his insurance company is therefore terminated . The car is therefore not insured.
Your driving other cars relies on the vehicle being insured.
You are therefore not covered.
Sorry for your loss. My Dad died aged 99 1/2 99 years tomorrow

loskie

7,094 posts

149 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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when dad died 3 years ago the DVLA were very good, I called, spoke to the bereavement team on behalf of my mother. They transferred the keepership to my mother, continuation of VED and no additional keepers on the V5C.

Mum sorted out the insurance,

Heaveho

7,451 posts

203 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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Sorry about your dad.

As I understand it, the car has to have a policy on it for it to be insured third party for another driver. Obviously, with your dad passing away, that policy will be terminated. Apologies if this turns out to be duff info, but it's well meant. I would get something in writing before committing to using the car.

I've had a misunderstanding with my ins.co recently in much more straightforward circumstances, leading to me drive uninsured for a brief period.


legless

2,034 posts

169 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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Drclarke said:
Secondly, ensure the car is insured for fire and theft.
This.

About 5 years ago, my grandfather died. Several days after his death, some bd thieving scumbags ransacked his house and used his car to transport all the stuff they'd stolen away with them.

Car was never seen again.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,040 posts

179 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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Etretat said:
Unfortunately the pollicy holder had died. The contract with his insurance company is therefore terminated . The car is therefore not insured.
Your driving other cars relies on the vehicle being insured.
You are therefore not covered.
1. Policyholder has died - correct
2. Contract therefore terminated - wrong.
3. Car is not insured - wrong
4. DOC relies on the other vehicle being insured. Wrong. (it might do, it might not, you need to check the Ts & Cs of your DOC)
5. You are therefore not covered - wrong.



TwigtheWonderkid

49,040 posts

179 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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legless said:
Drclarke said:
Secondly, ensure the car is insured for fire and theft.
This.

About 5 years ago, my grandfather died. Several days after his death, some bd thieving scumbags ransacked his house and used his car to transport all the stuff they'd stolen away with them.

Car was never seen again.
Did the insurers pay out? Or, as claimed by some on here, was the policy terminated automatically by his death?

vaud

59,403 posts

184 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Etretat said:
Unfortunately the pollicy holder had died. The contract with his insurance company is therefore terminated . The car is therefore not insured.
Your driving other cars relies on the vehicle being insured.
You are therefore not covered.
1. Policyholder has died - correct
2. Contract therefore terminated - wrong.
3. Car is not insured - wrong
4. DOC relies on the other vehicle being insured. Wrong. (it might do, it might not, you need to check the Ts & Cs of your DOC)
5. You are therefore not covered - wrong.
^^ As noted here

Talk to the insurer. They have policies to deal with this.

legless

2,034 posts

169 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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TwigtheWonderkid said:
Did the insurers pay out? Or, as claimed by some on here, was the policy terminated automatically by his death?
The insurers (Zurich I believe) paid out. I can't remember if there was any 'termination on death of the policyholder' clause though.

I'd like to think that most insurers would be sensible about it though. From their perspective, the policyholder having a pulse doesn't materially affect a car's risk of being stolen. I think these clauses are more as a measure of preventing a deceased relative being used to 'front' a policy.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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Etretat said:
Unfortunately the policy holder had died. The contract with his insurance company is therefore terminated . The car is therefore not insured.
As you say, it is unfortunately as simple as that. Don't listen to "bloke on internet said...", contact the insurance company asap.

InitialDave

15,085 posts

148 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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Condolences for your dad.

Not sure what state the DVLA are in right now, but when I had to deal with this, I phoned them up and they sorted it out straight away.

I didn't have any insurance to deal with, but what do you need? A full policy to keep the car, or just cover for a week or two to arrange selling it?

TwigtheWonderkid

49,040 posts

179 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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rockin said:
Etretat said:
Unfortunately the policy holder had died. The contract with his insurance company is therefore terminated . The car is therefore not insured.
As you say, it is unfortunately as simple as that. Don't listen to "bloke on internet said...", contact the insurance company asap.
Well according to Legless, Zurich (one of the major insurers) paid out on a theft claim after the death of the policyholder. Did they make an error? I doubt it. Of course they had to pay out. The policyholder had taken out an annual policy that covered theft. That policy was still in force at the time, despite the death of the policyholder.

Pica-Pica

16,571 posts

113 months

Friday 11th December 2020
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Don’t ask on here, phone the insurers. It will most likely still be covered for theft, but they will tell you what to do next.